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Confederates surrendered the city of Vicksburg to Ulysses S. Grant 159 years ago today
Posted on 7/4/22 at 7:25 am
Posted on 7/4/22 at 7:25 am
After a brutal, 47-day siege in which the civilians of Vicksburg took to living in caves on the bluffs overlooking the Mississippi River and eating horses, the Confederate fortress of Vicksburg had finally had enough. Confederate forces under the command of John C. Pemberton officially surrender themselves to Ulysses S. Grant on the 87th birthday of the United States of America.
The capture of Vicksburg, followed shortly there after by the fall of Port Hudson, effectively splits the Confederacy in two and gives the Union army/navy complete control of and access to the mighty Mississippi River. The twin victories of Gettysburg (July 3) and Vicksburg (July 4) are often seen by many Civil War historians as a major turning point in the American Civil War.
As for the city of Vicksburg itself, its citizens would not celebrate Independence Day again until after the Second World War.
The capture of Vicksburg, followed shortly there after by the fall of Port Hudson, effectively splits the Confederacy in two and gives the Union army/navy complete control of and access to the mighty Mississippi River. The twin victories of Gettysburg (July 3) and Vicksburg (July 4) are often seen by many Civil War historians as a major turning point in the American Civil War.
As for the city of Vicksburg itself, its citizens would not celebrate Independence Day again until after the Second World War.
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Posted on 7/4/22 at 7:32 am to RollTide1987
Posted on 7/4/22 at 7:36 am to RollTide1987
Perhaps if reinforcements had held down Columbus/Belmont here in KY the entire Mississippi campaign would have floundered. Holding down Western Kentucky should have been priority one in all of this, at least as far as the Western campaign goes. No taking the Ohio and Mississippi, no penetrating Nashville and onwards. Lincoln had it right. "To lose Kentucky is to lose the War"
This post was edited on 7/4/22 at 7:37 am
Posted on 7/4/22 at 7:45 am to RollTide1987
Vicksburg residents were such sore losers they wouldn’t celebrate July 4th for the longest time
This post was edited on 7/4/22 at 7:47 am
Posted on 7/4/22 at 7:47 am to GetCocky11
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GetCocky11
quote:I’m not so sure “great” should be used to describe the deaths of Americans
A great couple of days
But you do you
Posted on 7/4/22 at 7:52 am to RollTide1987
3 of my 3rd gggrandfathers made it though this. All were paroled and moved the fight to other areas. I do not understand those that disparage those who fought in this war. Looking back it is easy to judge those who participated but what conviction would it take for you to leave your wife and children to partake in something like this.
There is a lot of internet commandos who would do this or would do that if faced with similar situations but would your actions back your words?
There is a lot of internet commandos who would do this or would do that if faced with similar situations but would your actions back your words?
This post was edited on 7/4/22 at 7:54 am
Posted on 7/4/22 at 7:53 am to RollTide1987
Posted on 7/4/22 at 7:54 am to RollTide1987
I've always been amazed that the casinos were able to survive.
Posted on 7/4/22 at 7:55 am to RollTide1987
Like uh can I see this on TikTok man?
Posted on 7/4/22 at 7:55 am to wileyjones
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describe the deaths of Americans
South shouldn’t have started a war
those days were great in that they ensured the preservation of the Union
Posted on 7/4/22 at 8:00 am to UKWildcats
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Perhaps if reinforcements had held down Columbus/Belmont here in KY the entire Mississippi campaign would have floundered. Holding down Western Kentucky should have been priority one in all of this, at least as far as the Western campaign goes.
That Belmont/Columbus Battlefield State Park in Kentucky is amazing. The SIZE of the anchors and chain placed on either bank to block the river are nearly incomprehensible. I remember seeing it for the first time when I was six years old visiting my grandmother in Hickman. western Kentucky is an entirely different state from where I was raised in eastern Kentucky. It's more southern once you get west of E-town.
This post was edited on 7/4/22 at 8:04 am
Posted on 7/4/22 at 8:05 am to RollTide1987
My great, great grandfather, in the 1st Louisiana Heavy Artillery, was captured at Vicksburg on July 4, he was paroled on July 8, but broke his parolement terms and joined the 28th Louisiana Infantry till the end of the war. He passed in 1927. There is a picture of my oldest uncle, as a toddler, sitting on his lap shortly before he died.
Posted on 7/4/22 at 8:05 am to RollTide1987
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As for the city of Vicksburg itself, its citizens would not celebrate Independence Day again until after the Second World War.
Brutal wars (but I repeat myself) breed resentment. We've done well enough to reunite...until recently.
Posted on 7/4/22 at 8:06 am to RollTide1987
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John C. Pemberton
In an interesting twist, both Pemberton (Confederate commander of Vicksburg) and Franklin Gardner (Confederate commander of Port Hudson) were Yankees by birth, Pemberton hailing from Philly and Gardner from New York City.
Most generals on both sides were professional soldiers and we often forget how close knit the Antebellum regular army was and particularly the West Pointers. Gardner, for example, graduated with U.S. Grant in 1843. Pemberton roomed with (and was close friends with) George Meade and graduated with the likes of Braxton Bragg, Joe Hooker and Jubal Early.
Those relationships were the norm, not the exception among the general officers who served in both armies.
This post was edited on 7/4/22 at 8:08 am
Posted on 7/4/22 at 8:07 am to GetCocky11
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South shouldn’t have started a war
When did this lie start?
Posted on 7/4/22 at 8:11 am to Barbellthor
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When did this lie start?
Well, in the interest of accuracy, Louisiana native Pierre Gustave Toutant-Beauregard gave the order to fire the first shots of the war.
Yet another twist, the Union commander, Anderson, had been one of Beauregard's instructors at West Point.
Posted on 7/4/22 at 8:14 am to GetCocky11
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those days were great in that they ensured the preservation of the Union
Um no. Imagine the South with all of our natural resources, especially oil, free from the scourge that is DC.
Slavery would be long gone by now regardless.
Posted on 7/4/22 at 8:27 am to usmcnav
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I do not understand those that disparage those who fought in this war.
Agreed, but bafoons here that say “we” when talking about the Confederacy is pretty fascinating.
Posted on 7/4/22 at 8:31 am to ForeverEllisHugh
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Um no. Imagine the South with all of our natural resources, especially oil, free from the scourge that is DC.
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Slavery would be long gone by now regardless
Long gone? The war itself wasn't even that long ago.
Posted on 7/4/22 at 8:37 am to RollTide1987
Had a relative captured at some point and put in prison in Illinois. After the war ended they let him out and he walked the railroad back to Mississippi.
My family were a bunch a poor farmers in Mississippi with zero slaves. My grandfather was the oldest of sixteen. They just made their farm workers.
My family were a bunch a poor farmers in Mississippi with zero slaves. My grandfather was the oldest of sixteen. They just made their farm workers.
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