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re: Confederates surrendered the city of Vicksburg to Ulysses S. Grant 159 years ago today

Posted on 7/4/22 at 8:40 am to
Posted by KiwiHead
Auckland, NZ
Member since Jul 2014
27516 posts
Posted on 7/4/22 at 8:40 am to
Knowing Southern politicians we would still be fighting over creating a unified rail system.....you know, like the one that the North had that allowed them to get 25,0000 troops to different theaters of the war in a week.
Posted by unclejhim
Folsom, La.
Member since Nov 2011
3703 posts
Posted on 7/4/22 at 8:48 am to
quote:

Pierre Gustave Toutant-Beauregard


Now that's a handle..
Posted by upgrade
Member since Jul 2011
13028 posts
Posted on 7/4/22 at 8:52 am to
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but bafoons here that say “we” when talking about the Confederacy is pretty fascinating.



So you never include yourself as a “we” in discussing past American events?
What about in discussions of sports teams that you are a fan of but have never played for. I’m born and raised a southerner with ancestors who fought for the South. Count me as a bafoon, I guess.
Posted by Dirk Dawgler
Where I Am
Member since Nov 2011
2481 posts
Posted on 7/4/22 at 9:49 am to
My ggg grandfather was there as well. He was a sergeant in the 39th Ga.. The Gilmer Tigers. He was paroled in the prisoner exchange and returned home to Georgia. Soon thereafter, the regiment was re-formed and was mobilized to re-join the army at Chattanooga.
Posted by greenbean
USAF Retired
Member since Feb 2019
4593 posts
Posted on 7/4/22 at 10:02 am to
This is where James Dutton was captured. While he was serving, his wife Margaret was hooking up with Jody and that crazy assed kid, Elsa, resulted
Posted by S
RIP Wayde
Member since Jan 2007
155617 posts
Posted on 7/4/22 at 10:05 am to
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Um no. Imagine the South with all of our natural resources, especially oil, free from the scourge that is DC.


Posted by dsides
Member since Jan 2013
5366 posts
Posted on 7/4/22 at 10:26 am to
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Posted by Damone
FoCo
Member since Aug 2016
32764 posts
Posted on 7/4/22 at 10:28 am to
I can’t imagine voluntarily trying to tie yourself to the failed scourge that was the Confederacy
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
260542 posts
Posted on 7/4/22 at 10:40 am to
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I can’t imagine voluntarily trying to tie yourself to the failed scourge


Been gone for 160 years.

Democrats are real, and current and are as bad or worse than confederates.

your cult is real, theirs isn't.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
260542 posts
Posted on 7/4/22 at 10:41 am to
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So you never include yourself as a “we” in discussing past American events?


He's probably proud of his 1960's left wing terrorist activities. Those werent Americans though. Commies aren't American.
This post was edited on 7/4/22 at 10:43 am
Posted by lsujag
Member since Jan 2012
2327 posts
Posted on 7/4/22 at 10:45 am to
I highly suggest visiting the military park in Vicksburg
Posted by Jfk Jr
Member since Jul 2022
591 posts
Posted on 7/4/22 at 10:46 am to
General Sherman.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
260542 posts
Posted on 7/4/22 at 10:47 am to
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visiting the military park in Vicksburg


Did when I was a kid, and loved it.

Would like to do a CW battlefield tour someday.
Posted by Jfk Jr
Member since Jul 2022
591 posts
Posted on 7/4/22 at 10:49 am to
Yeah, democrats are the only ones responsible. You're dumbest poster on here.

Pure form, low educated white trash.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
260542 posts
Posted on 7/4/22 at 10:50 am to
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Yeah, democrats are the only ones responsible


Dems are the primary reason for the normalizing of insanity.

You people have never faced the consequences for your actions. Its time.

Hopefully you get the government you vote for. I'll be very entertained.
Posted by lepdagod
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2015
3390 posts
Posted on 7/4/22 at 10:54 am to
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Slavery would be long gone by now regardless.


Everytime i hear this i laugh... nothing would have changed
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
260542 posts
Posted on 7/4/22 at 10:54 am to
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Everytime i hear this i laugh... nothing would have changed


Bless your heart.
Posted by Damone
FoCo
Member since Aug 2016
32764 posts
Posted on 7/4/22 at 11:01 am to
The south’s pathetic economy was wholly reliant on slave labor, of course they wouldn’t have given it up. They tried to break up the entire damn country for it, but I’m sure they would have just given it up willingly if they won (lol).
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
260542 posts
Posted on 7/4/22 at 11:03 am to
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The south’s pathetic economy was wholly reliant on slave labor, of course they wouldn’t have given it up


Does it make you feel better to believe these convenient fairy tales?
Posted by Reubaltaich
A nation under duress
Member since Jun 2006
4965 posts
Posted on 7/4/22 at 11:04 am to
I once read that the CSA cannons overlooking the Miss River were shooting way over the Union ships coming down the river.

Most cannon shots by the CSA cannons went harmlessly onto the other side of the Miss River.

If you have been to the Vicksburg bluffs, its easy to see that there was a huge tactical advantage the CSA cannons had on the Union ships.

It should have been a turkey shoot on the Union ships.
I think only one Union ship was sunk at the Battle of Vicksburg.


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