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re: Computer Science graduate find first full time job.

Posted on 3/31/22 at 10:24 am to
Posted by hometownhero89
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Posted on 3/31/22 at 10:24 am to
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Build a homelab


Lol this is way too expensive for a recent graduate to undertake. There are multiple platforms like tryhackme, hackthebox, and proving grounds that are affordable as hell.

Home labs are going the way of the dodo unless you own your own app company.

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Begin preparing for certs


Comptia Network+ and Security+ are fantastic starting points that will land you a job as soon as you have them. A+ first if he really didn't retain much.
Posted by DarthRebel
Tier Five is Alive
Member since Feb 2013
24873 posts
Posted on 3/31/22 at 10:24 am to
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Learn SQL, and be prepared to truly understand data. That's how you survive in IT these days.




Exactly. What's truly valuable is an IT person that can communicate and understand what various departments, customers, etc. are asking for. Understanding the data is important.


Kind of mixed thoughts on SQL. The cloud providers are really dumbing down the data layer and needing to know raw SQL.

Data Scientists seem to be the new hotness. You would need a basic level of SQL, but stronger in the mathematics world. Python, R, Scala and some Java work here.
Posted by Steadyhands
Slightly above I-10
Member since May 2016
7120 posts
Posted on 3/31/22 at 10:27 am to
Might be able to qualify for a decent paying government job in that field. Tell him to check out usajobs.gov
Posted by TigerBandTuba
Member since Sep 2006
2556 posts
Posted on 3/31/22 at 10:32 am to
Leviton in New Orleans hires a lot of new grads for software developer positions. They also hire developers that don't have degrees.
Posted by kennypowers
AR
Member since Mar 2009
615 posts
Posted on 3/31/22 at 11:04 am to
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1. A college degree is pretty much worthless. People we hire from India/Asia all have bachelor's, with some having masters or even phds. We do not even look at that, as it does indicate any worth of the individual. Some of our best employees degrees in English or former Airline Mechanic, while some of the worst have a PhD in Electrical Engineering from Bangladesh or China.


I know it's not going to be popular for recent grads, but this is pure fact. I could give 2 shits about what kind of degree or if they even have a degree when it comes to hiring.

Salesforce is a great platform to work on and has a ton of free training from Salesforce themselves(google trailhead)

Other than that AWS and Azure cloud certs are white hot right now.
Posted by hometownhero89
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Member since Aug 2007
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Posted on 3/31/22 at 11:07 am to
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I know it's not going to be popular for recent grads, but this is pure fact. I could give 2 shits about what kind of degree or if they even have a degree when it comes to hiring.


Whole-heartedly agree. Most comp sci majors from Louisiana I work with don't know a ton about much when they first start. Business school has done more for me in tech than any comp sci degree could.

Most colleges do not encourage enough python scripting for linux based tools. If more fresh grads knew this they could make a killing.
Posted by Funky Tide 8
Bayou Chico
Member since Feb 2009
55941 posts
Posted on 3/31/22 at 11:10 am to
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Where did he graduate?
Louisiana Lafayette. Degree in Informatics.


He probably knows my cousin.
Posted by pelicansfan123
Member since Jan 2015
2348 posts
Posted on 3/31/22 at 11:12 am to
His full time job right now should be applying for jobs. He should be applying to at least 5 jobs a day at this point and be preparing for potential CS interviews.

I think that the key is to throw as many apps out there as he can and worry more about location later. I definitely did not really want to be in my current location, but unfortunately, that's just where I was able to get a job. If he has options later on and can get a job in a city he likes, then all the power to him.
Posted by Baers Foot
Louisiana Ragin' Cajuns
Member since Dec 2011
3872 posts
Posted on 3/31/22 at 11:21 am to
Tell him to apply for one of these open positions at Viemed (based in Lafayette): Business Systems Analyst, Data Analyst. Tell him to look over both and choose one, as a hiring manager (not at Viemed), I can see if someone applies to multiple positions at my company and that's somewhat of a red flag to me.

Perficient and CGI are always hiring.

Posted by charminultra
Member since Jan 2020
2779 posts
Posted on 3/31/22 at 11:26 am to
I'm an IT recruiter in Dallas, with lots of remote roles.
Posted by tdme
Member since Jan 2022
278 posts
Posted on 3/31/22 at 11:28 am to
How does he contact you charminultra?
Posted by Roovelroe
Mandeville
Member since Jan 2005
4372 posts
Posted on 3/31/22 at 11:36 am to
Not trying to be an arse, but if he graduated a year ago, can't find steady work since then in this job market, and his dad is out beating the bushes for him, I think it's likely him and not the market.

And directly from the UL website:

"The demand of IT/IS professionals is extremely high as our 90% of graduating classes always have their job offers before the graduation"

So either that's a total fabrication on a University website, or, see above.
Posted by manonwheels28
Member since May 2015
213 posts
Posted on 3/31/22 at 11:39 am to
Staffing Service? Robert Half and Lofton are a couple.
Posted by KTShoe
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2020
534 posts
Posted on 3/31/22 at 11:49 am to
Understood but I’ve seen too many people start off as help desk and get stuck for a while. If he’s any good m, they try to keep them there. If he leaves, his primary experience is help desk and that’s the interviews he will get.
He should look for system support jobs, in particular corporate system support jobs.
There are fewer of this jobs but there are some for entry level. These positions will allow him to move up quicker plus a wider range of specialities.
Posted by deltaland
Member since Mar 2011
100351 posts
Posted on 3/31/22 at 12:00 pm to
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My son graduated last year with a degree in computer science


Even learning to code doesn’t yield a job anymore. Thanks Biden
Posted by WhiskeyThrottle
Weatherford Tx
Member since Nov 2017
6929 posts
Posted on 3/31/22 at 12:32 pm to
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Even learning to code doesn’t yield a job anymore. Thanks Biden


I was torn between networking and development when I started. With development, there are tons of things you can do on your own to learn and figure out how to do things. You can even pass that as experience if you want but be careful you don't overstate your abilities.

There are networking simulators like GNS3 that help with learning networking. But even GNS3 requires an image from whatever router you're mirroring.

In the end, I enjoy development. Worst case scenario, if nobody will hire you, you can work on a website or applications on your own that can be valuable over time.
Posted by GetMeOutOfHere
Member since Aug 2018
1024 posts
Posted on 3/31/22 at 1:42 pm to
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He also needs to know if he likes front-end or back-end. I bet I've been told a million times by applicants that they're "full-stack". Maybe one of them actually was. 


What would you consider full stack?
Posted by BenDover
Member since Jul 2010
5548 posts
Posted on 3/31/22 at 1:43 pm to
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Staffing Service? Robert Half and Lofton are a couple.


Robert Half is one of the best staffing firms in the world. I worked for them before switching over to the dark side and they truly are premiere. However, he is highly unlikely to land a permanent gig from them based off of the information we know right now. He is much more likely to land a contract job doing help desk/support. That's not a terrible thing but just want to temper expectations on that side.

The reason isn't because RH are buttheads. It's moreso because they are very costly on the permanent staffing side and virtually no company is paying a 25-30% placement fee for a college grad two months before the next batch of college grads. If that's the realm the company is looking to hire, they attended career fairs last month.
This post was edited on 3/31/22 at 1:45 pm
Posted by charminultra
Member since Jan 2020
2779 posts
Posted on 3/31/22 at 1:54 pm to
good question. i'd rather not give an email or phone number since these frickers would blow my shite up...

let me think and get back to you.

Posted by Abstract Queso Dip
Member since Mar 2021
5878 posts
Posted on 3/31/22 at 1:56 pm to
Finance bro. We need computer guys. Both password resetters and ones that can create bots for trading and managing orderflow. Good money there.
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