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re: Competition for College Admissions in Texas is unreal

Posted on 2/9/18 at 9:32 am to
Posted by supatigah
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Posted on 2/9/18 at 9:32 am to
FTR the top 7% rule isnt a UT driven thing, it is mandated by the Texas Legislature. Regents at UT have been fighting this for years, it used to be Top 10%

The challenge is Texas is admitting a huge portion of high achiever kids that go there, graduate and then vanish. They dont participate in campus culture, they dont join the Alumni Association, they dont donate, after they graduate they have no tie to the school whatsoever.

These kids are squeezing out Texas qualified kids that dream about going to UT but don't get in and have to go to other state schools. TAMU is feasting on these kids as are the rest of the UT system
Posted by fareplay
Member since Nov 2012
5897 posts
Posted on 2/9/18 at 9:33 am to
Don’t send her to A&M, we have enough art history majors as well as other below par students.
Posted by Winston Cup
Dallas Cowboys Fan
Member since May 2016
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Posted on 2/9/18 at 9:34 am to
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Don’t send her to A&M, we have enough below par engineering students.




NEVER FORGET

Posted by LordSaintly
Member since Dec 2005
40693 posts
Posted on 2/9/18 at 9:35 am to
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It's amazing how smart all those Texas and Texas A&M football players must be to get accepted.....




It’s truly pathetic
Posted by bamafan1001
Member since Jun 2011
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Posted on 2/9/18 at 9:35 am to
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Academically Texas and Texas aTm are on par with Ivy League schools. Great schools.


Ummm...Texas is a huge state and most college bound seniors in the state probably want to attend UT or A&M as their first choice. Just because they can be extremely selective with their applicants doesnt mean the academic programs are that much better than comparable regional schools.
Posted by fareplay
Member since Nov 2012
5897 posts
Posted on 2/9/18 at 9:35 am to
Have you been to MIT? Their shits worse
Posted by supatigah
CEO of the Keith Hernandez Fan Club
Member since Mar 2004
88773 posts
Posted on 2/9/18 at 9:37 am to
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What in the hell is a super score?



Take the best section score from each time you took the ACT and use those for one composite Super Score.

Some schools use Super Scoring in admissions, most dont
Posted by VABuckeye
NOVA
Member since Dec 2007
37694 posts
Posted on 2/9/18 at 9:37 am to
Texas certainly isn’t alone in this. It’s easier for a top Northern Virginia kid to get into UNC than it is to get into UVA. There are so many kids in NOVA that have outstanding academic credentials that UVA can’t take them all because of the requirement to accept kids from all over the state. We are fortunate in Virginia that we have several outstanding universities for kids to choose from but some parents and kids only have one school in mind and don’t handle not getting into that school well.

Posted by AbitaFan08
Boston, MA
Member since Apr 2008
27724 posts
Posted on 2/9/18 at 9:38 am to
The schools that do should lose their accreditation. That’s ridiculous.
Posted by supatigah
CEO of the Keith Hernandez Fan Club
Member since Mar 2004
88773 posts
Posted on 2/9/18 at 9:43 am to
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Don’t send her to A&M, we have enough art history majors as well as other below par students.



FTR she is considering Public Relations at UT because McCombs School of Business and the School of Engineering are the two hardest to get into at Texas. She was going to major in PR as a way to fit Business School classes into her major.

If she went to TAMU she would have majored in biology. That is most likely why she didnt get into TAMU directly with her scores and GPA. She applied to a tough college to get in to at TAMU, Biology is super competitive because of all of the pre-Med kids
Posted by Melvin Spellvin
proud dad of 2 A&M honor grads
Member since Jul 2015
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Posted on 2/9/18 at 9:44 am to
your plan puts your kids at risk, could result in not being exposed to tough courses and competition in high school at the time they really need it, "country" schools as you describe them generally don't/can't offer the courses to prepare kids for high ranking colleges, your kids could suffer academically in college and possibly be part of the bust out group that creates room for CAP and Blinn Team transfers, good luck...
Posted by AbitaFan08
Boston, MA
Member since Apr 2008
27724 posts
Posted on 2/9/18 at 9:52 am to
Wait - she was going to decide what her major would be based on where she went to school?

Isn’t that the exact opposite of how it’s supposed to go?
Posted by supatigah
CEO of the Keith Hernandez Fan Club
Member since Mar 2004
88773 posts
Posted on 2/9/18 at 9:54 am to
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The schools that do should lose their accreditation. That’s ridiculous.



oh i agree

BTW you were pretty hard on me about the racial component of this stuff but I think you misunderstood what I was trying to say. Race is not a factor as much as culture.

In my area there are a ton of foreign immigrants from India, Pakistan, Vietnam and China. These people are super achievers that found a way to America via education and hard work. They come here for jobs and to give their kids the absolute best opportunity to get an education.

That best opportunity is then crafted and manipulated by the parents to duplicate what they did through their kids. The sad part is, these kids dont grow up in a focused, distraction free environment like their parents did, so the super achievements come with a high price.

One of my sons best friends is a Chinese kid that finished Top 20 in his class and goes to UT. The kid had an ULCER in HS and almost had a breakdown. Now that he is at UT away from his mom, he is making good grades but he is getting fat because he has discovered weed and eating junk food in the middle of the night. it is weird to see a slight Chinese kid with a bloated face and a gut

Some of these kids are paying a high emotional price for the dreams and influences of their parents
Posted by Tiger in NY
Neptune Beach, FL
Member since Sep 2003
31149 posts
Posted on 2/9/18 at 9:55 am to
This is how California's schools are too. Almost everyone goes to a CC first, then matriculates. I see no problem, probably weeds out a lot of people.
Posted by BearsFan
Member since Mar 2016
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Posted on 2/9/18 at 9:55 am to
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What in the hell is a super score?



Super score is if you take the ACT multiple times, you take the best of each of your individual section scores and use them to make a composite.


And yes, competition to get into UT is very tough. I went to Baylor and I had friends who were there because they got full tuition scholarships as a result of being National Merit finalist, and UT had given them very little, so it was actually much cheaper for them to go to the school with the larger price tag.
This post was edited on 2/9/18 at 9:56 am
Posted by AbitaFan08
Boston, MA
Member since Apr 2008
27724 posts
Posted on 2/9/18 at 9:56 am to
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BTW you were pretty hard on me about the racial component of this stuff but I think you misunderstood what I was trying to say.


You have me confused with someone else. I never once mentioned race.
Posted by tylercsbn9
Cypress, TX
Member since Feb 2004
66230 posts
Posted on 2/9/18 at 9:56 am to
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Your kids were born the wrong skin color I'm afraid.


My kids are white as hell but their mom is Hispanic. You can bet I'll check that box on in college applications
Posted by Tiger in NY
Neptune Beach, FL
Member since Sep 2003
31149 posts
Posted on 2/9/18 at 9:57 am to
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awarding more than a 4.0. What the frick does having a 4.2 mean?


Honors and AP classes grade out higher
Posted by Rouge
Floston Paradise
Member since Oct 2004
137826 posts
Posted on 2/9/18 at 10:01 am to
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she went to TAMU she would have majored in biology. That is most likely why she didnt get into TAMU directly with her scores and GPA. She applied to a tough college to get in to at TAMU, Biology is super competitive because of all of the pre-Med kids
majoring in biology is a rookie mistake

Too many kids major in biology and put all their eggs in the medical basket. When they don't get into medical school, they are pretty fricked if they don't want to work in a lab for the rest of their life.

Go into bioengineering or chemical engineering if you want med school. You get all the sciences and the maths and engineering courses as well. If medicine doesn't work out, you have lots of other options that don't suck.
This post was edited on 2/9/18 at 10:02 am
Posted by supatigah
CEO of the Keith Hernandez Fan Club
Member since Mar 2004
88773 posts
Posted on 2/9/18 at 10:02 am to
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Wait - she was going to decide what her major would be based on where she went to school?

Isn’t that the exact opposite of how it’s supposed to go?


i feel like I am bringing you up to speed on college admissions in 2018

you have to apply to the College of your chosen Major at these Texas schools. So at 17 you have to know exactly what you want to do before you even apply.

Say you want to major in Business. You apply to McCombs School of Business at Texas and Mays School of Business at TAMU. If you get in, they don't admit you in to Texas, they admit you in to McCombs and Mays.

Once you get there you basically cant change majors with out applying to the new College. So you cant apply to Texas in Art History, get in and then try to change majors while there. You would have to apply to McCombs even though you are already a UT Student.

So if you want to go to Texas, you have to be wise about what College you are applying to. My son applied to McCombs, Mays and UT-D. He got auto-accepted at TAMU, Auto-accepted with Honors at UT-D and didnt get in to Texas at all
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