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Commanches
Posted on 11/7/18 at 11:14 pm
Posted on 11/7/18 at 11:14 pm
Been reading about them a lot recently.
They were scary. They did a lot of really horrible stuff. We did some shitty stuff too to be fair, but they as a whole were extremely aggressive and mean. Look up Rachel Plummer and her capacity (can’t link the wikipedia on my phone)
The most interesting thing I’ve learned so far is that the Comanches as a group probably didn’t exist till the 1600s, when mass migrations from colonization started affecting all of the Americas.
As a result, their society was a little different other similar societies including not really having a fully developed religion
Another thing I found fascinating is that there may not have been as many bison before white people showed up. Pre-disease Indians may have naturally kept the bison population pretty low.
They were scary. They did a lot of really horrible stuff. We did some shitty stuff too to be fair, but they as a whole were extremely aggressive and mean. Look up Rachel Plummer and her capacity (can’t link the wikipedia on my phone)
The most interesting thing I’ve learned so far is that the Comanches as a group probably didn’t exist till the 1600s, when mass migrations from colonization started affecting all of the Americas.
As a result, their society was a little different other similar societies including not really having a fully developed religion
Another thing I found fascinating is that there may not have been as many bison before white people showed up. Pre-disease Indians may have naturally kept the bison population pretty low.
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Posted on 11/7/18 at 11:17 pm to athenslife101
This post was edited on 11/7/18 at 11:21 pm
Posted on 11/7/18 at 11:17 pm to athenslife101
Comanches killed my great great great great grandfather
Never forgive, never forget
Never forgive, never forget
Posted on 11/7/18 at 11:24 pm to athenslife101
quote:your picture says otherwise.
Another thing I found fascinating is that there may not have been as many bison before white people showed up. Pre-disease Indians may have naturally kept the bison population pretty low.
Posted on 11/7/18 at 11:26 pm to athenslife101
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Commanches
Bad asses
Posted on 11/7/18 at 11:28 pm to athenslife101
The Comanches are an interesting study. They were master horsemen, but had stone age intellect.
Posted on 11/7/18 at 11:29 pm to Manzielathon
My condolences
Posted on 11/7/18 at 11:29 pm to athenslife101
They had very low fertility rates and as a result were very free to adopt. About 1/3 of their population was white, hispanic, or mixed race. Quanah Parker, the last war chief, was half white. They were total badasses, and fought the US to a draw until 1876. During the civil war they rolled back the Texas frontier an average of 100 miles.
Posted on 11/7/18 at 11:30 pm to athenslife101
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not really having a fully developed religion
=
heathens
Posted on 11/7/18 at 11:32 pm to Hawgnsincebirth55
No it doesn’t. The first of the pandemics was sweeping through the Indian populations in the 1500s/1600s. That’s when the bison started booming. It was t until the mid 1800s the bison hunting became a major item and millions were killed at extreme rates and it was controversial at its time. The Army was openly trying to drive the bison extinct as they knew the Indians needed the bison so much that without it, the Indians would have to be supplied on reservations. People were lobbying Congress to save the bison/buffalo.
This post was edited on 11/7/18 at 11:34 pm
Posted on 11/7/18 at 11:41 pm to athenslife101
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Commanches
Lords of the Plains.......
This post was edited on 11/7/18 at 11:52 pm
Posted on 11/7/18 at 11:48 pm to athenslife101
fricking savages.
Posted on 11/7/18 at 11:49 pm to Manzielathon
quote:
Comanches killed my great great great great grandfather Never forgive, never forget
Wow, that could have been me.
Posted on 11/7/18 at 11:57 pm to Manzielathon
quote:
Comanches killed my great great great great grandfather
My dad had a Jeep Comanche. Makes you think.
Posted on 11/7/18 at 11:59 pm to Jim Rockford
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Quanah Parker
has a nice rest stop
Posted on 11/8/18 at 12:11 am to WinnPtiger
Yea.. Commanches are though... But not as though as Apaches... Not only did they fight John Wayne, but during WWII, when paratroopers jumped they yelled, "Geronimooooooooooooo."
This post was edited on 11/8/18 at 12:13 am
Posted on 11/8/18 at 12:18 am to athenslife101
Read S C Gwynn's book:
The Empire of the Summer Moon
The Empire of the Summer Moon
Posted on 11/8/18 at 12:27 am to WWII Collector
Not a real tribe but collection of mistakes and frick ups from older tribes pushed Westward.
What is really interesting is that Native Americans had at least 3 to 4 periods of Super tribes, or Nations. The last being the Mississippi confederation. They controlled a majority of what is now the United States, and are believed to have had a complex society, established trading routes, multiple cities over 50,000 people one over 250,000 etc. they would have easily beaten the Europeans back into the sea as they could have send armies of 100,000 or more in waves. My ancestor Tecumshe was not trying to unite the tribes for the first time, he was trying to reunite them again.
The previous Nations were strong enough to sent Aztecs fleeing to Mexico. We landed in America at exactly the right time, between periods of unification and when the numbers had been decimated by disease by trade with European fisherman, etc
What is really interesting is that Native Americans had at least 3 to 4 periods of Super tribes, or Nations. The last being the Mississippi confederation. They controlled a majority of what is now the United States, and are believed to have had a complex society, established trading routes, multiple cities over 50,000 people one over 250,000 etc. they would have easily beaten the Europeans back into the sea as they could have send armies of 100,000 or more in waves. My ancestor Tecumshe was not trying to unite the tribes for the first time, he was trying to reunite them again.
The previous Nations were strong enough to sent Aztecs fleeing to Mexico. We landed in America at exactly the right time, between periods of unification and when the numbers had been decimated by disease by trade with European fisherman, etc
Posted on 11/8/18 at 12:32 am to TutHillTiger
The Indians of the plains from all the Westerns were no better fighters or any more successful than the chickasaws, Mohawks or Eastern Indians. It just no movies other than last mohican. In Kings Phillips war the causality rate was estimated at about 15-20% of all colonials, and almost every townships was attacked. That would be almost 100 million dead today.
King Phillips’s War
King Phillips’s War
This post was edited on 11/8/18 at 12:56 am
Posted on 11/8/18 at 12:37 am to TheArrogantCorndog
I think they were a bit too cruel to be bad asses. But they were an interesting group
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