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re: Colorado deputies shoot and kill man who asked for help after car crash
Posted on 9/14/22 at 11:21 am to shel311
Posted on 9/14/22 at 11:21 am to shel311
quote:
, you can't logically argue they should have just left him there,
Not until they do their perceived due diligence. Dude could have committed a mass murder and be on the run.
Until they verify identification and sobriety level they aren't leaving.
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Posted on 9/14/22 at 11:21 am to SlowFlowPro
quote:
Only people pushing the police state talking points have a problem with that.
If he's sober at the end, then what threat is he?
Oh shite you missed out on an arrest for a hypothetical threat who didn't harm anyone. What will this do to society?
Okay, let's go down this path. Is it your belief that nobody should be arrested for DUI if they haven't harmed anyone? Getting them out of the car and off the road with no charges/fines accomplishes the same goal?
Posted on 9/14/22 at 11:22 am to RogerTheShrubber
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Not until they do their perceived due diligence. Dude could have committed a mass murder and be on the run.
Until they verify identification and sobriety level they aren't leaving.
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I think the dude was way off and had a breakdown, you don't want cops dealing with that. Too many cases where cops are called to suicidal people and the cops end up doing the deed without being in danger.
Posted on 9/14/22 at 11:22 am to Street Hawk
mental illness is the real pandemic
dude sounds like he was a few eggs short of a dozen to start, then escalated it by refusal to comply with deadly weapons on hand that he refused to surrender
gaslighting via actions not words:
dude sounds like he was a few eggs short of a dozen to start, then escalated it by refusal to comply with deadly weapons on hand that he refused to surrender
gaslighting via actions not words:
Posted on 9/14/22 at 11:23 am to SlowFlowPro
Again, you can;'t understand simplicity.
Cops never should have been called, but once there they were leaving without identifying the dude and his mental state.
The dude fricked up calling 911
Cops never should have been called, but once there they were leaving without identifying the dude and his mental state.
The dude fricked up calling 911
This post was edited on 9/14/22 at 11:24 am
Posted on 9/14/22 at 11:23 am to canyon
quote:#mannequinlivesmatter
triple twist, they were only mannequins
Posted on 9/14/22 at 11:23 am to BuckyCheese
quote:Which is safer, have the person put his hands on the weapon in hopes he throws them out the window
He offered to throw out his knives.
They told him no.
or
Have the person get out of teh vehicle and remove himself from the weapons without actually having to grab them?
Posted on 9/14/22 at 11:23 am to UpToPar
quote:
Is it your belief that nobody should be arrested for DUI
Nope. Never said that.
quote:
Getting them out of the car and off the road with no charges/fines accomplishes the same goal?
I said if they waited so long for him to be sober, and they couldn't prove DUI, then it's irrelevant. The only people who care are those who want to promote a police state and are upset that the state may have missed out on an opportunity to punish someone.
Posted on 9/14/22 at 11:24 am to Oates Mustache
quote:
Even if they suspected that he was impaired, they still have time to properly assess that.
Well, yea, but they need him out of the car to do that.
quote:
This guy's life > DUI charge
Sure, but that's not why they were sticking around. Several people made comments that they should have just left. They very clearly could not have left. SFP knows that, he's just too prideful to crawfish.
Posted on 9/14/22 at 11:24 am to Street Hawk
Every single cop missing bullets from their mags needs to be locked up for life with they key thrown away. This country needs reform and the only way to do it is to lock these cops away and make them think twice before they do some shite like this.
Posted on 9/14/22 at 11:24 am to UpToPar
quote:Admitted to crashing his car...I think?
From the body cam video after the cop asks him if he's on anything:
Admitted to smoking when asked on something.
Seemed pretty obviously to be having some sort of mental episode
Why are posters acting like the cops should have just left him alone and they'd obviously not be held responsible in anyway if he did something fricked up shortly after?
Posted on 9/14/22 at 11:24 am to UpToPar
quote:
They very clearly could not have left.
That doesn't seem to be what the SP supervisor said/implied.
Posted on 9/14/22 at 11:25 am to DomincDecoco
quote:
dude sounds like he was a few eggs short of a dozen to start, then escalated it by refusal to comply with deadly weapons on hand that he refused to surrender
Yep, cops didnt know he wasn't a fugitive. He fricked up calling 911..
Posted on 9/14/22 at 11:25 am to SlowFlowPro
quote:You mean when he was lunging at the cop with said knife in hand?
The standard justification for deadly force is fear of serious bodily injury/death. What reasonable person in the place of LEO had a reasonable belief of serious bodily injury/death during that situation?
Posted on 9/14/22 at 11:25 am to Oates Mustache
quote:
This guy's life > DUI charge
The guy apparently didn't think so in his impaired state.
Posted on 9/14/22 at 11:25 am to SlowFlowPro
quote:
I said if they waited so long for him to be sober, and they couldn't prove DUI, then it's irrelevant.
So anyone pulled over for DUI should just sit in their car until they sober up, correct? No harm, no foul?
Posted on 9/14/22 at 11:26 am to Street Hawk
So he is stuck off the road and is scared of cops so he calls cop to come push him out. Should have called a tow truck
Posted on 9/14/22 at 11:26 am to shel311
quote:
Why are posters acting like the cops should have just left him alon
They can't.
Why did he call 911 instead of a wrecker?
Posted on 9/14/22 at 11:26 am to SlowFlowPro
quote:We found a loophole.
After a couple of hours even this new "intoxicated" meme would not have any real concern
If you're drinking and driving and pulled over, just lock your doors and don't let the cops in for 6 hours until you know you'll blow that 0 on the breathalyzer.
Is that what you're arguing?
Posted on 9/14/22 at 11:27 am to SlowFlowPro
quote:
They very clearly could not have left.
That doesn't seem to be what the SP supervisor said/implied.
obviously some sort of issue with the guy in the vehicle but imo the cops goaded, taunted, and provoked the guy into getting the outcome that they wanted
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