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re: Colorado deputies shoot and kill man who asked for help after car crash
Posted on 9/14/22 at 7:06 pm to shel311
Posted on 9/14/22 at 7:06 pm to shel311
I don’t think they should have left by any means, that’s insane. He was obviously fricked up, either from drugs or having a mental breakdown of some sort. But man, I can’t imagine having to sit on the stand in a courtroom and try to convince people that my life was in danger from that video.
The military has a higher standard to justify lethal force than this, and this is on US soil.
The military has a higher standard to justify lethal force than this, and this is on US soil.
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Posted on 9/14/22 at 7:08 pm to shel311
Yeah he would have ended up stabbing the guy that walked up to the cops and said he was on the other corner making out with his girlfriend… lmao. I was like wtf when i heard that.
Either we have some people here that dont care to know the whole story but want to be opinionated or some real idiots. In no way should the cops ever leave someone like that after what they heard on the 911 call and what they saw when they pulled up.
Either we have some people here that dont care to know the whole story but want to be opinionated or some real idiots. In no way should the cops ever leave someone like that after what they heard on the 911 call and what they saw when they pulled up.
Posted on 9/14/22 at 7:15 pm to Street Hawk
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He wasn’t suspected of any crime.
Easy solution: if he refuses to follow instructions, just leave his arse there. Get in your cop cars and leave.
Why do cops have to do things only one way, where the peons bend the knee?
Posted on 9/14/22 at 7:17 pm to MetroAtlantaGatorFan
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FWIW, meth showed up in his system via autopsy.
Posted on 9/14/22 at 7:22 pm to The Boat
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Sucks he got shot and died but I’m confused as to why this guy was being such a pussy.
He clearly watched too much CNN and wanted to show his virtue
Posted on 9/14/22 at 7:24 pm to shel311
Talk about a stretch
Posted on 9/14/22 at 7:27 pm to NoSaint
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If no crime has been committed, and no one is in danger? Call it a day and head to your next call whenever you want. Call a mental health professional and head on down the road.
I would actually pay a monthly fee for a subscription to shows this just for the hilarity that will ensue.
I think cops should call in the “mental health experts” and just secure the perimeter. Let’s all pop some popcorn and watch these experts at work
Posted on 9/14/22 at 7:28 pm to DisplacedBuckeye
Interesting how when cops kill somebody and it’s caught on video, reports surface immediately thereafter ( quite unlawfully) that the victim had meth in his system.
Reckon it’s coincidence..l
Reckon it’s coincidence..l
Posted on 9/14/22 at 7:30 pm to scottyd
quote:In what world is me saying what actually happened a stretch?
Talk about a stretch
Posted on 9/14/22 at 7:31 pm to nitwit
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victim had meth in his system
Yeah it’s not like meth makes you erratic.
Posted on 9/14/22 at 7:31 pm to nitwit
quote:The guy said on video he smoked something but there's just no way he could have had drugs in his system!!
Interesting how when cops kill somebody and it’s caught on video, reports surface immediately thereafter ( quite unlawfully) that the victim had meth in his system.
Reckon it’s coincidence..l
This post was edited on 9/14/22 at 7:32 pm
Posted on 9/14/22 at 7:35 pm to shel311
It’s a stretch because this situation is well above and beyond anything that could have been reasonably expected to happen.
You’re taking the worst case scenario of outcomes and applying it to this situation.
Obviously this guy was out of his mind on drugs, but you can’t stab someone outside of the car from inside the car. Pretty simple concept.
You’re taking the worst case scenario of outcomes and applying it to this situation.
Obviously this guy was out of his mind on drugs, but you can’t stab someone outside of the car from inside the car. Pretty simple concept.
Posted on 9/14/22 at 7:37 pm to scottyd
quote:You're literally telling me it's a stretch to say what happened happened.
It’s a stretch because this situation is well above and beyond anything that could have been reasonably expected to happen.
You’re taking the worst case scenario of outcomes and applying it to this situation.
Posted on 9/14/22 at 7:42 pm to scottyd
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bviously this guy was out of his mind on drugs, but you can’t stab someone outside of the car from inside the car. Pretty simple concept.
First, the cops were having to go into the car to retrieve.
2nd, if you look back there was a pic posted that showed the guys arm maybe a foot out of the window with the knife. So what you are saying is clearly false.
Posted on 9/14/22 at 7:43 pm to shel311
So, if he had drugs in his system he was fair game?
And the cops knew he had drugs in his system?
Law enforcement is required to deal with a lot of difficult situations and proper criminal justice training instructs officers that the sometimes they are required to protect people from themselves.
Not all encounters are with intelligent, reasonable, sober folks in full control of their senses.
These guys will be handed their asses in any reasonable court, and justifiably so.
And the cops knew he had drugs in his system?
Law enforcement is required to deal with a lot of difficult situations and proper criminal justice training instructs officers that the sometimes they are required to protect people from themselves.
Not all encounters are with intelligent, reasonable, sober folks in full control of their senses.
These guys will be handed their asses in any reasonable court, and justifiably so.
Posted on 9/14/22 at 7:44 pm to shel311
No. I’m literally telling you it’s a stretch to say that’s why he had the knife. At that point his window has been broken, he’s been tazed, and he’s had guns pointed at him for the better part of an hour. Take that and couple it with being on drugs, maybe they should have taken a few steps back to try to calm him down.
From the beginning I’ve said he should have gotten out of the car, but to say his intentions were to harm the cops is a stretch 100%. They had every opportunity to not have this end up the way it did and they fricked it up.
From the beginning I’ve said he should have gotten out of the car, but to say his intentions were to harm the cops is a stretch 100%. They had every opportunity to not have this end up the way it did and they fricked it up.
Posted on 9/14/22 at 7:44 pm to nitwit
quote:This happened in June, no?
Interesting how when cops kill somebody and it’s caught on video, reports surface immediately thereafter ( quite unlawfully) that the victim had meth in his system.
Reckon it’s coincidence..l
Posted on 9/14/22 at 7:45 pm to diat150
They didn’t have to go to the car to retrieve. They could have taken a step back as easily as they shot him.
Posted on 9/14/22 at 7:46 pm to nitwit
Correct
Posted on 9/14/22 at 7:47 pm to nitwit
quote:What does that even mean? If you're asking should you be able to shoot someone solely because they have drugs in their system the answer is no. That's also irrelevant question/answer because that's not what happened.
So, if he had drugs in his system he was fair game?
quote:They knew he was having some sort of mental issues be it drugs or some sort of mental breakdown/psychotic episode, I'd be confident of that.
And the cops knew he had drugs in his system?
quote:And if they chose to sit there for another hour without intervening and the dude killed himself, would that be considered protecting him from himself?
Law enforcement is required to deal with a lot of difficult situations and proper criminal justice training instructs officers that the sometimes they are required to protect people from themselves.
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