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re: College majors gaining the most in popularity and losing the most in popularity:

Posted on 12/3/18 at 2:51 pm to
Posted by blueridgeTiger
Granbury, TX
Member since Jun 2004
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Posted on 12/3/18 at 2:51 pm to
My son graduated in history - Bachelor's degree. Career military officer in the Marines - over 20 years service.
Posted by RightHook
Member since Dec 2013
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Posted on 12/3/18 at 2:53 pm to
history and area studies/languages are solid complimentary degrees to economics, marketing, finance and international trade.
Posted by Restomod
Member since Mar 2012
13493 posts
Posted on 12/3/18 at 2:56 pm to
Know several attorneys and judge who were History majors
This post was edited on 12/3/18 at 2:57 pm
Posted by StealthCalais11
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Posted on 12/3/18 at 2:56 pm to
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If you can't see the value in knowing History then would you care to invest in my Zyklon B manufacturing company?


I do actually; I've always been quite the history buff. I was more referring to the others listed. I'm also in a completely different, & well paying career. Pursue a career path that sets you up financially, & play with your passion projects on the side.
This post was edited on 12/3/18 at 2:57 pm
Posted by colorchangintiger
Dan Carlin
Member since Nov 2005
30979 posts
Posted on 12/3/18 at 3:01 pm to
If there were no people getting History degrees then how would you pursue those passion projects? No one would be qualified to write the books.

Fwiw, I got my degree in History, but I would advise most any and everyone against it. What did I do with my degree? I have a business that manufactures industrial chemical pumps.
Posted by islandtiger
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2012
1787 posts
Posted on 12/3/18 at 3:04 pm to
I understand an individual's need to get a degree in a field that offers significant job opportunities, but getting a BA in a "liberal arts" followed by advanced degrees in technical fields makes for a more well-rounded individual and, arguably, is better for society writ large (e.g., better informed electorate).
Posted by Gatorbait2008
Member since Aug 2015
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Posted on 12/3/18 at 3:15 pm to
Degrees in things like History are a waste of money. Interesting sure, but will gain you nothing in the real world. My finance degree is barely useful considering I lasted less than two years in the banking World before I hated it and went to do “real work”. It does help me in other areas like investing and bookkeeping I guess though so there’s that
Posted by 3nOut
I don't really care, Margaret
Member since Jan 2013
32719 posts
Posted on 12/3/18 at 3:18 pm to
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If there were no people getting History degrees then how would you pursue those passion projects? No one would be qualified to write the books.

Fwiw, I got my degree in History, but I would advise most any and everyone against it. What did I do with my degree? I have a business that manufactures industrial chemical pumps.




i don't think people are hating on anybody getting a history degree, it's more the "i went into huge debt getting a history/philosophy/women's studies degree and don't have a meaningful job to show for it... student loan forgiveness!!" group that gets people's ire. i would have LOVED to get a history degree for the fun of it. i took 3 extra history classes as extracurriculars because i'd rather do that than almost any other course work.

i took communications because i did speech and debate in HS and was stupid easy. today, i install network and security equipment for enterprise networks.

funny thing is... i couldn't have gotten my first job out of school without a degree... couldn't have gotten my second job without a degree and the experience from the first job. my current job requires no degree, pays more than the last 2 combined, but i couldn't have gotten it without having one of my first two jobs' experience.
This post was edited on 12/3/18 at 3:21 pm
Posted by OKTGR580
Baton Rouge to Houston, TX
Member since Apr 2018
6318 posts
Posted on 12/3/18 at 3:23 pm to
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I have a history degree and a great paying job in insurance. I had my job with a fortune 50 company literally calling me to offer me a job as I finished my last final. That was 10 years ago and I’m doing just fine.


It’s all about the person and having connections really helps. You’d be surprised. Just a bachelors degree alone gets you in the door above many others. I know two engineers that struggled for months to find a job after graduation. One petroleum and one civil.
Posted by TheCaterpillar
Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 12/3/18 at 3:35 pm to
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This is good


Really good
Posted by TheCaterpillar
Member since Jan 2004
76774 posts
Posted on 12/3/18 at 3:38 pm to
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Proud history major here. Gainfully employed.


I, too, am a history major.

My thinking was twofold: I love it so I'll actually enjoy studying and going to class AND I was planning on law school at the time so that can help you prepare.

I decided against law school (thank god) and I work in healthcare, primarily focused on strategy and analytics for a major company's c-suite.

I finish my MBA on Friday actually, which I found necessary considering my undergrad degree.

Posted by TheCaterpillar
Member since Jan 2004
76774 posts
Posted on 12/3/18 at 3:43 pm to
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Interesting sure, but will gain you nothing in the real world.


Not necessarily true, but yes, it shouldn't be used as a lever to get a good paying job post undergrad, because that won't work.

Learning history is hugely important though and allows you to see the world in a different way. It also trains you to have better reading comprehension and to become a better writer. Both of which are valuable in the real world. You also learn about macro economics, human psychology, political science, and several other things that are intertwined with history. You don't understand the rise and fall of countries, armies, or civilizations without understanding these things.

Studying history can also teach you how to empathize more with people in your life. One of the best ways to understand history is to put yourself in the shoes of those you're studying to try and understand what was happening and how they felt at the time. That is a very useful skill in life and business.

After all, as the saying goes, those who do not learn from history are doomed to repeat it.
This post was edited on 12/3/18 at 3:46 pm
Posted by Northshore Saint
Loranger, LA
Member since Feb 2013
1864 posts
Posted on 12/3/18 at 3:52 pm to
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i don't think people are hating on anybody getting a history degree, it's more the "i went into huge debt getting a history/philosophy/women's studies degree and don't have a meaningful job to show for it... student loan forgiveness!!" group that gets people's ire. i would have LOVED to get a history degree for the fun of it. i took 3 extra history classes as extracurriculars because i'd rather do that than almost any other course work. 

i took communications because i did speech and debate in HS and was stupid easy. today, i install network and security equipment for enterprise networks. 

funny thing is... i couldn't have gotten my first job out of school without a degree... couldn't have gotten my second job without a degree and the experience from the first job. my current job requires no degree, pays more than the last 2 combined, but i couldn't have gotten it without having one of my first two jobs' experience. ?


I think what people don't realize is college for the most part is not job training, it's about making you a well rounded person that can write well, think critically, express thoughts and ideas, do independent research. These are all skills taught in basic liberal arts classes that almost all majors have to take and they are important for separating yourself when you do get into the job market.

Now there were a lot of people that struggled after they graduated college back around 2008 when the recession started. That's something that a lot of those new graduates weren't expecting to face upon entering the job market. On top of not being able to find a job they're also stuck with this massive debt that they had to soon figure out how to make payments on.
Posted by TheCaterpillar
Member since Jan 2004
76774 posts
Posted on 12/3/18 at 3:53 pm to
Getting a job post college was just about who you know.

People didn't give a shite what my major was.

Posted by slackster
Houston
Member since Mar 2009
91871 posts
Posted on 12/3/18 at 4:14 pm to
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Studying History teaches you how to research and use critical thinking.


Something you can get in many degree programs.
Posted by jeffsdad
Member since Mar 2007
25327 posts
Posted on 12/4/18 at 7:15 pm to
Been in the field a Looooonnnnnnggggg time. Medical Technologist once was a very respected field. With me being the exception, at one time, if you were smart enough to be a med tech, you were smart enough to be a doctor. Now, it is not nearly the same. I consult in labs where the "techs" really (seriously) should be in the janitorial staff. The qualifications for being working in the lab in almost all states has decreased to a high school degree and being trained in house. Now RN's automatically are qualified to be Med Techs. Nothing against RN's, typically they are smarter than the average MT (now). Automation has made this possible, but I cheer automation, I don't disagree with it. There are a few sub-specialties in the lab that are still hot, but its only temporary. Besides the work technicalities being downgraded, the job itself is an extremely stressful and non-rewarding venture. People dont know what you do except "collect blood". "Oh, you are the vampire". A lab can literally turn out a million results a month, but the doc will only remember the one result that was incorrect,,,and it was most likely incorrect because of specimen collection, nothing the tech did. And going into lab management???? Just no. The techs will most likely hate you simply because their personality trait is a straight analytical and straight analytical people are typically malicious achievers and anarchists. Half your techs will want you to fail just because they want you to fail. Administration will blame the management for everything that happens and so will the Pathologists. So you get rocks thrown at you from 3 directions. And most of your crew are females. Get 20 females in your lab and at least 4 of them will be PMSing every day. I would strongly suggest anyone going into the lab field to look into nursing....it has numerous sub-fields to go to and the pay is typically much better. Registered Med Techs (4 year degree) typically begin about 17 dollars per hour.
Posted by jeffsdad
Member since Mar 2007
25327 posts
Posted on 12/4/18 at 7:20 pm to
Nursing is taught by RNs with at least a masters degree in Nursing, and usually a PhD in nursing.
Posted by EA6B
TX
Member since Dec 2012
14754 posts
Posted on 12/4/18 at 8:31 pm to
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What can you do with a degree in religion?


One of my college friends got commissioned as a Army officer and become a Chaplin.
Posted by Flashback
reading the chicken bones
Member since Apr 2008
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Posted on 12/4/18 at 8:52 pm to
Exercise science, lol.
Posted by Bestbank Tiger
Premium Member
Member since Jan 2005
82341 posts
Posted on 12/4/18 at 8:57 pm to
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And no, I'm not talking about the big names and the prosperity gospel type. Those people are despicable and know very little about any religion.


The Babylon Bee had a brief informational piece on prosperity gospel.

Who are the most notable proponents? Benny Hinn, Crespo Dollar, Joel Osteen, TD Jakes

Who are the most notable opponents? God, Jesus, the Apostles, the prophets.
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