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re: CNBC: Supertankers could change the US Oil export game
Posted on 2/13/18 at 11:27 pm to fightin tigers
Posted on 2/13/18 at 11:27 pm to fightin tigers
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Say you have a billion dollars to open a new refinery, where would you do it?
Somewhere around Bolivia at about 8000 feet in a mountainous region.
Maybe as a second thought, I'd think about putting it where lots of people who use a lot of refined products live. Maybe Nebraska.
This post was edited on 2/13/18 at 11:29 pm
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Posted on 2/14/18 at 12:00 am to Icansee4miles
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We can't build crackers fast enough.
Whoa Whoa Whoa. Watch it man, just because it's Black History Month don't mean you can throw that word around...
Posted on 2/14/18 at 12:14 am to fightin tigers
That ship tracker is awesome. It's amazing where these vessels come from and where they're going. The big bitch in the BR port came from Sweden.
Posted on 2/14/18 at 12:28 am to TigersSEC2010
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The big bitch in the BR port came from Sweden.
Cool as hell.
This nearly 800' long tanker the biggest one in the Baton Rouge harbor now. MITERA MARIGO - Crude Oil Tanker
This one is also hanging around near the Exxon wharf on the east side of the river: SILVER ELEANOR Oil/Chemical Tanker
This post was edited on 2/14/18 at 12:38 am
Posted on 2/14/18 at 6:46 am to upgrayedd
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Don't we basically supply all of Mexico since they have no refining there?
They have tons of refining capacity there. Unfortunately it goes local and they can’t keep up with demand locally. My cousin was part of the team who sells literal boatloads of gasoline and other refined products to the now non-PEMEX gas stations (from here in the US). 90-95% of the gas stations are now privately labeled.
Posted on 2/14/18 at 7:28 am to idlewatcher
I've actually been on one and it had a gym and half-court basketball.
Wouldn't want that life of being on a ship months at a time.
Wouldn't want that life of being on a ship months at a time.
Posted on 2/14/18 at 7:34 am to member12
It’s not a boat
It’s a yacht
It’s a yacht
Posted on 2/14/18 at 8:35 am to NorthEndZone
I've seen bigger ships in the quad on a Tuesday.
Posted on 2/14/18 at 8:42 am to lsusteve1
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Wouldn't want that life of being on a ship months at a time.
A friend's younger brother is in the Merchant Marine as a 1st mate working his way to Captain. He makes bank.
Posted on 2/14/18 at 8:50 am to Captain Crackysack
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VLCCs and ULCCs only carry crude oil. So it will likely come back empty
Or come back with oil gas. It won't be finished 87 octane.
Posted on 2/14/18 at 8:50 am to poochie
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The jibberish on the left side of that logo looks like "spill". It's a sign...
Posted on 2/14/18 at 8:52 am to Icansee4miles
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Refining might go offshore
It most definitley will. Regulations aren't going to be lax for long and NIMBYs and green energy is going to push it that way.
It looks like consolidation to super sites in locations that are beneficial regulatory and financially.
Posted on 2/14/18 at 9:08 am to Ed Osteen
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They couldn’t get a pic of the actual boat the article is about?
You try and drive your boat up to that tanker while she sits in the LOOP.
Those black speed boats with the machine guns and sound wave contraption mounted to them are quite impressive and scary.
Posted on 2/14/18 at 9:27 am to 4WHLN
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Those black speed boats with the machine guns and sound wave contraption mounted to them are quite impressive and scary.
Sounds like you have experience in this area.
Posted on 2/14/18 at 9:51 am to fightin tigers
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Or come back with oil gas. It won't be finished 87 octane.
Tanks are built for crude oil. Nothing else. Not to mention it's entirely too big for the clean product trade
Posted on 2/14/18 at 10:52 am to member12
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Sounds like you have experience in this area.
Once. Coming in from an overnight fishing trip we ran the main fuel tanks dry just outside the LOOP. By the time we primed the reserve tanks we had drifted about a mile into the LOOP. Needless to say we did not listen to their repeated warnings over the radio to get out of their federally protected waters. We were quickly visited by one of their speed boats just as we were able to get the engines running again.
Posted on 2/14/18 at 11:22 am to Captain Crackysack
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Tanks are built for crude oil. Nothing else. Not to mention it's entirely too big for the clean product trade
reuters
Granted most shipments are done on the maiden voyage, but there is no reason a vlcc can't carry gas oil. Being dirty is a semi-easy work around and achievable if the price is right.
Time will certainly tell.
Posted on 2/14/18 at 11:38 am to fightin tigers
Ok. So it's happened one time. VLCC and ulcc tanks are bare steel. Clean product tankers have their tanks painted at the bottom few meters. This protects the steel when water begins to separate out of the refined product. Crude oil is a natural protector of steel so painting is unnecessary. Supertankers also usually have two cargo pumps (port and starboard). The piping is not segregated in a way which allows the carriage of multiple products. Product tankers may have over a dozen pumps and segregated piping for each tank. Chemical tankers can have over 40 tanks and a separate pump and piping system for each one.
Posted on 2/14/18 at 11:55 am to Captain Crackysack
I just wanna say thinks for this link. I see a lot of GIANT boats(relative to the Ms River) down between the Boggs and Huey P Bridge and always wondering what they be totin'. This is cool as shite. 
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