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re: Climate change and evolution now "required learning" for Alabama students..
Posted on 9/16/15 at 7:03 pm to Bama323_15
Posted on 9/16/15 at 7:03 pm to Bama323_15
The problem with the creationism versus evolution debate is that each side has to be incredibly naive to think that the creation of the universe, Earth, and every living thing on it can be summed up in a couple of chapters. Take Genesis for what it is, Noah's account of creation and the beginnings of man. Noah lived 3000 years ago. If he spoke of evolution and quantum physics, no one would have understood him, and the story would not have lived on. It was told in the terms that the contemporary man could understand. Creationism and evolution can absolutely coexist.
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Posted on 9/16/15 at 7:06 pm to LSU1NSEC
And of course, both are lies.
Posted on 9/16/15 at 7:06 pm to LSU1NSEC
So kids can learn how to become scientifically literate
Isn't that a good thing ?
Isn't that a good thing ?
Posted on 9/16/15 at 7:10 pm to LucasP
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You say that like it's a good thing. Look if you want to believe in science in your home then that's fine, to an extent. But your science has no business in a public school. Your beliefs in theories and witchcraft shouldn't hinder my children's ability to learn.
Trollolololololololol
Posted on 9/16/15 at 7:12 pm to The First Cut
quote:But evolution doesn't deal with creation.
The problem with the creationism versus evolution debate is that each side has to be incredibly naive to think that the creation of the universe, Earth, and every living thing on it can be summed up in a couple of chapters.
This post was edited on 9/16/15 at 7:14 pm
Posted on 9/16/15 at 7:12 pm to The First Cut
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Creationism and evolution can absolutely coexist.
If you're a deist, sure. God created the universe and its laws/mechanisms to his liking, set it in motion, and just sat back and watched what happened.
But I've talked to people that acknowledge evolution for everything except human beings. And that's just silly.
Posted on 9/16/15 at 7:13 pm to buckeye_vol
Double post.
This post was edited on 9/16/15 at 7:14 pm
Posted on 9/16/15 at 7:16 pm to Bmath
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Ah yes, the quintessential creationist "gotcha" statement. It is easily squashed by a basic understanding of how selective pressures lead to population divergence.
Molecular techniques, like 18s rRNA sequencing, can largely identify which genes we have in common with other organisms. You can actually quantify how far apart various primates have become from one another
Ah yes, the quintessential message board scientist. He was joking you fricking try hard
Posted on 9/16/15 at 7:24 pm to buckeye_vol
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Why do people use the word Darwinism and what exactly is it?
"Darwinism is a theory of biological evolution developed by Charles Robert Darwin and others, stating that all species of organisms arise and develop through the natural selection of small, inherited variations that increase the individual's ability to compete, survive, and reproduce."
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Unfortunately, the Darwinist claim isn't supported by the scientific method.
Posted on 9/16/15 at 7:25 pm to HeadChange
It's silly and The Bible in way addresses it. You have to be a kook to think faith precludes science and you have to be a kook to think science precludes faith.
Posted on 9/16/15 at 7:32 pm to TigernMS12
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Good. Whether you believe it or not, learning opposing arguments does nothing but give people perspective, and increase overall intelligence.
hahahahahahahahahaha
only if the opposing idea is liberal
not so much in colleges run by liberals
Posted on 9/16/15 at 7:34 pm to The First Cut
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It's silly and The Bible in way addresses it.
Addresses the silliness?
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You have to be a kook to think faith precludes science and you have to be a kook to think science precludes faith
Those two words have pretty much opposite meanings. If you would've said something along the lines of 'you can have faith in god and still practice science', I'd agree.
Posted on 9/16/15 at 7:50 pm to HeadChange
I was agreeing with you that it's silly to agree with evolution, except for humans.
The Bible is absolutely not a book of science, if anyone thinks that science and faith contradict one another they are sadly mistaken. For that matter, the origin of scientific inquiry was to prove that this world was too great to have not been created by God. Newton wrote more about the Bible than science. Both coexist quite nicely except for the kooks that can't see the forest for the trees.
The Bible is absolutely not a book of science, if anyone thinks that science and faith contradict one another they are sadly mistaken. For that matter, the origin of scientific inquiry was to prove that this world was too great to have not been created by God. Newton wrote more about the Bible than science. Both coexist quite nicely except for the kooks that can't see the forest for the trees.
Posted on 9/16/15 at 7:58 pm to The First Cut
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The Bible is absolutely not a book of science
Agreed
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if anyone thinks that science and faith contradict one another they are sadly mistaken
sci·ence
'si?ns/noun
the intellectual and practical activity encompassing the systematic study of the structure and behavior of the physical and natural world through observation and experiment.
faith
faTH/noun
1.
complete trust or confidence in someone or something
They are both nouns, so I'll give you that.
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For that matter, the origin of scientific inquiry was to prove that this world was too great to have not been created by God
Thought that was philosophy? Thought science was trying to understand the world around us?
Instead of addressing your other points, I'll just leave this here because this is a basic representation of what all of these threads eventually turn into
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Posted on 9/16/15 at 8:00 pm to HeadChange
Right.
That was when philosophy was what was used to figure out the natural world.
Before science.
That was when philosophy was what was used to figure out the natural world.
Before science.
Posted on 9/16/15 at 8:01 pm to HeadChange
Your post proves my point, faith and science are two completely separate entities.
Posted on 9/16/15 at 8:03 pm to TigerBait1127
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How was evolution not required learning before?
Because God made humans with magic. We didn't have sex with fish you heathen
Posted on 9/16/15 at 8:05 pm to The First Cut
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Your post proves my point, faith and science are two completely separate entities.
No they aren't.
Science is the practical means for delving into the understanding of natural phenomena.
Faith is the lack of the practical means of understanding the same phenomena.
Let's be real here...everyone wants to know the big question. Why are we here? And that's how they're related and that's how the two go about it.
Posted on 9/16/15 at 8:05 pm to Pectus
You're just a science bitch though
Posted on 9/16/15 at 8:06 pm to HeadChange
Please tell me how science precludes faith in God.
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