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re: Chess Grandmaster Maurice Ashley plays unsuspecting trash talker
Posted on 2/18/16 at 9:16 pm to Pectus
Posted on 2/18/16 at 9:16 pm to Pectus
That was pretty cool to watch him toy with him.. When he brought down the rook he had him beat and just played patty cake with him to extend the video and watch him squirm.. He actually extended the game multiple times just for fun and can see it in his little smirk.
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Posted on 2/18/16 at 9:36 pm to Pectus
I was rated in the low to mid 1800's before I quit and moved on to other things, have beaten the occasional master and seen my share of park hustlers. Basically, these guys know good and well that most "marks" they will get to play are reasonably skilled club players. So they play trappy and offbeat openings, luring people into positions that would be dubious in long time controls but that are easy to miscalculate with little time to work.
Anyway, this guy tried 1. b4, which is definitely offbeat but can be perfectly good even against a decent club player if you know the resulting structures. He could have at one point pushed to b5 to hit the knight on c6 but declined that. Then he played Nh2, inviting the bishop trade but that was simply a major blunder that even I spotted instantly. Frankly he wasn't that strong even by hustler standards, this was a very one-sided game that didn't require GM level technique.
I've played regular tournament games against 3 GM's and about twice that many IM's, and in each case it only took 10-15 moves before I realized my position held zero prospects. I hadn't lost any material, it was just that my pawns and pieces were already working overtime to cover everything. Most of the games went beyond 30 moves but honestly they were over long before, I usually had the feeling that I was trying to hold back the ocean.
Anyway, this guy tried 1. b4, which is definitely offbeat but can be perfectly good even against a decent club player if you know the resulting structures. He could have at one point pushed to b5 to hit the knight on c6 but declined that. Then he played Nh2, inviting the bishop trade but that was simply a major blunder that even I spotted instantly. Frankly he wasn't that strong even by hustler standards, this was a very one-sided game that didn't require GM level technique.
I've played regular tournament games against 3 GM's and about twice that many IM's, and in each case it only took 10-15 moves before I realized my position held zero prospects. I hadn't lost any material, it was just that my pawns and pieces were already working overtime to cover everything. Most of the games went beyond 30 moves but honestly they were over long before, I usually had the feeling that I was trying to hold back the ocean.
Posted on 2/18/16 at 9:43 pm to MrPappagiorgio
quote:
I want to be that good at chess
Where do I start?
If you're a beginner and are serious about it, I highly recommend learning basic tactics first. For me it was the old Reinfeld "1001 Combinations" but there are endless choices today. Basically pick up a book that presents 500-100 positions, tells you whose turn it is and that you are aiming to win or draw. Work through it, and if you can't figure it out learn the solution and move on. This will teach you how to stop giving away pieces to short combinations. And probably almost as importantly, it will give you a "spidey sense" of sorts that goes off when your opponent overlooks something. I can't begin to count the number of times someone moved and I *immediately* knew something felt wrong but it took a good ten minutes to figure out why.
Also learn how to force a mate with KR vs. K and KQ vs. K.
That will get you to a point where you can compete at most clubs and you'll get more advice on where to go from there. I personally found that learning bare King and Pawn endings was very rewarding, sometimes even the pros make mistakes there (cough, cough, Carlsen-Hou).
This post was edited on 2/18/16 at 10:08 pm
Posted on 2/18/16 at 9:51 pm to jeffsdad
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Yeah, but I would be high fiving everybody around if I took a grandmaster
I would like to see them play a couple of games without the GM screwing around. I wonder if the old timer would be any competition.
Posted on 2/18/16 at 10:10 pm to foshizzle
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I usually had the feeling that I was trying to hold back the ocean.
I wasn't nearly as good as you, baw, but I played A LOT in high school. We had a "team" and had challenges for ordinal rankings. I was briefly #2 and never beat our top guy (although I got close a couple of times). He held a USCF rating of Class A or Expert - he wasn't a master level in HS, that's for sure.
I felt like that against him. "Did he just start with a lot more pieces than I did?"
Our top 3 guys were all excellent and I was just outside their league. We played a school one time and only had 1 loss and 1 draw in 20 matches (everybody played twice). Our faculty adviser lost to their faculty adviser once, and one of our weakest guys went 1 win and 1 draw.
Good times...
Posted on 2/18/16 at 11:11 pm to Ace Midnight
Even the guy who lost is very, very good.
Posted on 2/18/16 at 11:15 pm to foshizzle
I'm not nearly as good as you, but I thought that 1. b4 looked pretty screwy, but then again I really don't know anything beyond the 4 most common openings for white.
This post was edited on 2/18/16 at 11:16 pm
Posted on 2/18/16 at 11:21 pm to foshizzle
quote:
Anyway, this guy tried 1. b4, which is definitely offbeat but can be perfectly good even against a decent club player if you know the resulting structures. He could have at one point pushed to b5 to hit the knight on c6 but declined that. Then he played Nh2, inviting the bishop trade but that was simply a major blunder that even I spotted instantly. Frankly he wasn't that strong even by hustler standards, this was a very one-sided game that didn't require GM level technique.
Posted on 2/18/16 at 11:22 pm to slackster
Then you get robbed or shot. Who is the hustler now?
Posted on 2/18/16 at 11:29 pm to Backinthe615
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Never talk shite with a Grandmaster, especially one that looks and talks a little like Lawrence Fishburne
What if I told you, that you have already lost the game.....
Posted on 2/18/16 at 11:34 pm to Peazey
quote:These are ELO ratings correct? I find this interesting because it's based on the same mathematical model used in sabremetrics and the primary method for analyzing items for psychological assessments like IQ tests.
Grandmaster 2600 and up Senior master 2400–2599 Master 2200–2399 Expert 2000–2199 Class A 1800–1999 Class B 1600–1799 Class C under 1600
This post was edited on 2/18/16 at 11:36 pm
Posted on 2/18/16 at 11:49 pm to Pectus
Ol' boy held up pretty well against a Grandmaster.
Posted on 2/18/16 at 11:58 pm to buckeye_vol
You find it interesting that the ELO rating system (a system invented to rank chess players) is used to rank chess players?
Posted on 2/19/16 at 12:00 am to danilo
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Then you get robbed or shot. Who is the hustler now?
Good point.
Posted on 2/19/16 at 12:11 am to MrPappagiorgio
quote:
I want to be that good at chess
Where do I start
My dad is an excellent chess player compared to the average Joe. He's won several small local/regional tournaments over the past 50 years. He reads chess books, studies positions, openings, closings, etc on almost a daily basis since long before I was born (I'm 35).
He's not on the same planet as that guy.
This post was edited on 2/19/16 at 12:12 am
Posted on 2/19/16 at 7:11 am to St Augustine
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openings,
The kids today memorize hundreds of openings. That's why lots of high level games end in draws. That's also why the high level computer programs are almost unbeatable.
But, I still like chess as a mental exercise. The thought required is great to develop problem solving skills.
Posted on 2/19/16 at 8:53 pm to Peazey
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Here's the game imported to lichess. Someone did this over at r/chess.
Good find. It highlights the two major mistakes White made that I noted earlier - Nh2 and failure to play b5 at the right moment.
Posted on 2/19/16 at 8:55 pm to buckeye_vol
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These are ELO ratings correct? I find this interesting because it's based on the same mathematical model used in sabremetrics
It's actually the other way around - the Elo rating system (named after statistician Arpad Elo) was devised specifically for chess. Sabremetrics and plenty of others borrowed that idea.
Posted on 2/19/16 at 9:23 pm to foshizzle
How but that en passant! Seems pretty random to see that in this random video.
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