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re: Chef John Folse: Why is he such a hated figure in Southeast Louisiana?

Posted on 11/10/22 at 4:23 pm to
Posted by doublecutter
Member since Oct 2003
6878 posts
Posted on 11/10/22 at 4:23 pm to
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he's from St. James not far from the old high School.





He's one of those German river Cajuns.
Posted by Realityintheface
Member since May 2022
1784 posts
Posted on 11/10/22 at 4:57 pm to
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No okra in gumbo


If you don’t put okra in seafood gumbo, baby Jesus cries because it’s a mortal sin.
Posted by CornPop
Member since Oct 2019
8 posts
Posted on 11/10/22 at 5:39 pm to
The year was 1997..or maybe it was 1998. But I do recall clearly that it was Valentines Day.

I had booked a special weekend stay at one of those plantation homes for me and my wife to celebrate our anniversary (9th or 10th).

We were poor graduate students, so this was a big deal - and the pinnacle of it all was a meal at the celebrated restaurant "Lafitte's Landing" - the original one, located just over the Sunshine Bridge. I wanted everything to be perfect, so I called ahead and made reservations several days in advance - 7 pm sharp.

We arrived famished at 6:45 pm - and they found our reservation and said it would only be "a few minutes"....we were so excited...our first luxury meal in years and a chance to try the wonderful delicacies of the famed restaurant.

We were especially excited to see Chef John Folse himself across the room at the restaurant's bar. We had seem him on TV - so it was kind of cool, and maybe we'd get to meet him - or get his autograph?

But our reservation time of 7 pm came and went, and then 7:15, and then 7:30, and then 7:45 - and upon inquiring a few times we were told over and over..."sorry, but the kitchen is really backed up - due to the Valentines Day crowd".

..but there was a different reason we could see...

There were numerous customers who arrived after us and were told there was no open tables without a reservation.
But many of them were negotiating with the Maitre D - "Go tell John it's us, he knows us"

These folks were not just requesting, but insisting that they be seated without reservations - And apparently several of these people did know Chef Folse - who on that entire night (with the Kitchen backed up) sat in that bar, holding court and waving on a procession of locales and dignitaries into the few seats available as soon as customers finished up their meals.

This constant bumping of our reservations continued as one-by-one an old friend or a dignitary would arrive and with a wink and a nod they would get seated - always in view of me, my wife, and a few other unlucky couples who, like us, had nothing more than a "reservation".

Finally, at around 8:45 pm we were seated, but the political parade continued - with Folse gladhanding like a politician and the waiters being extremely apologetic about the backed up kitchen. We sat at that table, waiting for service, and watching the Folse carousel until we finally had enough. We left hungry and disappointed - maybe around 9 pm.

There wasn't much in terms of back-up food options in the Sunshine-Donaldsonville quarters back in those days - especially after 9 pm on Valentines day night. As I recall, we settled for some microwave burritos from the local Billups station. I still remember my beautiful young wife all dressed up and in tears on the ride back home.

This was my only experience with Chef Folse and it was not a good one.

I resolved then to tell this story anytime I could to anyone who would listen.

Thanks for reading.

This post was edited on 11/10/22 at 8:39 pm
Posted by The Dunder Mifflin
Member since Mar 2018
834 posts
Posted on 11/10/22 at 6:08 pm to
Heard from many people in the area that is is fake. All the recipes from his cook book came from the older black ladies that worked for his family and raised him, or something like that.

Never gave them credit for his recipes and declared it was all his.


Pretty messed up. And heard he is an a-hole
Posted by ruzil
Baton Rouge
Member since Feb 2012
17916 posts
Posted on 11/10/22 at 6:11 pm to
That dude is a dick. I have first hand knowledge and second hand knowledge from everyone I have met that had worked for him.

I cook his stuff.

Some people are dicks.

Don't let him ruin your day.
Posted by HarrisonTown
Member since Nov 2019
533 posts
Posted on 11/10/22 at 6:15 pm to
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Bruh, 20 years ago, standard tips were only like 10% back then.



Not true at all, bruh.
If you're standard was 10% twenty years ago, you were a shitty tipper.
Posted by ruzil
Baton Rouge
Member since Feb 2012
17916 posts
Posted on 11/10/22 at 6:20 pm to
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CornPop


I heard you were a bad dude.

Apparently, I heard right.

Folse is a dick
Posted by tgrbaitn08
Member since Dec 2007
148031 posts
Posted on 11/10/22 at 7:14 pm to
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Bruh, 20 years ago, standard tips were only like 10% back then.


standard tips have been 20% for as long as I’ve been alive and that’s over 40 years. I was raised to always tip at least 20%.

It obvious you’re still a teenager
Posted by notbilly
alter
Member since Sep 2015
5990 posts
Posted on 11/10/22 at 7:36 pm to
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Bruh, 20 years ago, standard tips were only like 10% back then. You're bashing him for giving the same as EVERYONE else gave for tips back then.



Tips back then were definitely 15%. Some people maybe tipped less than 15% but it wasn't often at all. All of us in the service industry tipped at least 20% which is why it was notable that a restaurant owner was tipping a good bit below the norm.

One part I initially forgot about in my original post was that we were supposed to charge a minimum 15% tip on tables of 6 or over. The server didn't add the 'forced' gratuity b/c they, along with all of us, assumed Folse would tip more than the 15%.
Posted by lostinbr
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Oct 2017
11779 posts
Posted on 11/10/22 at 7:40 pm to
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I have also heard that his catered wedding meals are lackluster and very generic, considering his namesake and all.

Are you talking about White Oak? I’ve been to quite a few weddings there and I would not describe the food as lackluster or generic.
Posted by lostinbr
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Oct 2017
11779 posts
Posted on 11/10/22 at 7:45 pm to
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One part I initially forgot about in my original post was that we were supposed to charge a minimum 15% tip on tables of 6 or over. The server didn't add the 'forced' gratuity b/c they, along with all of us, assumed Folse would tip more than the 15%.

That’s always a risk though because many folks expect to have a 15% (really 18% most places I’ve worked) gratuity added on a big party like that. In fact, the people that don’t expect it tend to be the shitty customers.

No idea whether he deserves the benefit of the doubt on that - maybe he’s really just a shitty tipper. But have you considered the possibility that he assumed he was tipping 10% on top of gratuity?
Posted by JackieTreehorn
Malibu
Member since Sep 2013
32731 posts
Posted on 11/10/22 at 7:46 pm to
I can’t stand that bastard
Posted by Art Vandelay
LOUISIANA
Member since Sep 2005
11157 posts
Posted on 11/10/22 at 8:05 pm to
His accent is terrible. Coming from a Thibodaux boy.

Also remember several people telling me he was in debt and collected a nice insurance check when Lafitte Landing burned. Just saying
Posted by LSU Coyote
Member since Sep 2007
54917 posts
Posted on 11/10/22 at 8:12 pm to
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German river Cajuns

Hymels changing their names to Haydals.
Posted by redstick13
Lower Saxony
Member since Feb 2007
39798 posts
Posted on 11/10/22 at 8:13 pm to
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standard tips have been 20% for as long as I’ve been alive and that’s over 40 years. I was raised to always tip at least 20%.


Are you 20 because 20 years ago 15% was generally acceptable.
Posted by Pepperidge
Slidell
Member since Apr 2011
4365 posts
Posted on 11/10/22 at 8:13 pm to
Whats CJF's take on the Commercial Red Snapper mafia?
Posted by tgrbaitn08
Member since Dec 2007
148031 posts
Posted on 11/10/22 at 8:15 pm to
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Are you 20 because 20 years ago 15% was generally acceptable.


I’m 47 and I guess I was just raised differently than you other poor bastards.

Sure 15% was acceptable, I was raised to tip 20% but only on food. Never tip 20% on the wine or alcohol.

Posted by redstick13
Lower Saxony
Member since Feb 2007
39798 posts
Posted on 11/10/22 at 8:18 pm to
You can admit that it was just easier to multiply 0.2 in your head instead of 0.15.
Posted by tgrbaitn08
Member since Dec 2007
148031 posts
Posted on 11/10/22 at 8:19 pm to
It was easier to just double the tax idiot
Posted by geauxpurple
New Orleans
Member since Jul 2014
14772 posts
Posted on 11/10/22 at 8:21 pm to
I have always thought very highly of him. I have been to his restaurants numerous times starting when Lafitte’s Landing was at the foot of the Sunshine Bridge and I have been to many functions at his White Oaks Plantation.
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