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re: Charlie Kirk Assassinated at Utah Valley University

Posted on 9/12/25 at 2:37 pm to
Posted by Foy
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Posted on 9/12/25 at 2:37 pm to
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Also Foy: Allow me to tell you about gun nut culture as told to me by xe/xim friend who once talked to a guy who read about it in the Atlantic


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I'm not as into the black and white attribution to these shadowy stalwart subcultures, as you guys are.
Posted by Pettifogger
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Posted on 9/12/25 at 2:38 pm to
Yes, I read your post
Posted by OMLandshark
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Posted on 9/12/25 at 2:39 pm to
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Posted by JohnnyKilroy
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Posted on 9/12/25 at 2:39 pm to
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My tongue is the only weapon I need.


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Posted by More beer please
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Posted on 9/12/25 at 2:39 pm to
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some might say the gun nut culture that was apparently a constant fixture of his childhood might have something to do with it.


Huh?

Posted by Foy
Member since Nov 2009
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Posted on 9/12/25 at 2:39 pm to
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Yes, I read your post


Not very well.
Posted by Pettifogger
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Posted on 9/12/25 at 2:41 pm to
My internal dialogue was, in fact, "perhaps he's trying to point out the absurdity of that claim and lampooning himself to evidence his premise."

But then I considered your other posting, and concluded that wasn't likely.

Posted by RLDSC FAN
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Posted on 9/12/25 at 2:50 pm to
Posted by OMLandshark
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Posted on 9/12/25 at 2:54 pm to

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Posted by Pettifogger
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Posted on 9/12/25 at 2:55 pm to
I can't remember who it was, but I heard some author talk about how amazing it is that despite being vilified, modern young men engage in pretty constant restraint in terms of their power.

I thought that was true and merited reflection. They're weapons. It's why we've used them for war. And yet, they with overwhelming consistency don't beat up women and older/weaker people, don't sexually assault, don't demand to be at the front of the line, don't take things by force.

Some nuts would argue that and claim that they (we) do all of these things constantly, but I think anyone living in the real world would have to admit that's untrue. Which only makes our inability/refusal to help them navigate the messed up world we offer them all the more dangerous.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
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Member since Jan 2009
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Posted on 9/12/25 at 2:56 pm to
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I’m explicitly nonviolent,


I'm not. But there is a time and place for it. We're not quite there yet, I do believe though that could change quickly

This post was edited on 9/12/25 at 3:02 pm
Posted by RLDSC FAN
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Posted on 9/12/25 at 2:56 pm to
Posted by Rebel80
Member since Sep 2016
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Posted on 9/12/25 at 2:57 pm to
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I want to know how he got to this point.



Video games/ internet /college indoctrination
Posted by OMLandshark
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Posted on 9/12/25 at 2:59 pm to
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Posted by Bunk Moreland
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Posted on 9/12/25 at 3:02 pm to
Yeah, I was thinking earlier today that there are scenarios where this kid ends up following Charlie or Fuentes.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
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Posted on 9/12/25 at 3:02 pm to
Yeah, I think we're all shocked that they would take out someone like Kirk.

What will they do to people further right? Charlie was really classic conservative and not nefarious.
Posted by RLDSC FAN
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Posted on 9/12/25 at 3:03 pm to
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How the hell could this guy get radicalized enough to do something like this


I won't be surprised if depression/anxiety meds are involved. Maybe autistic as well.
Posted by Hateradedrink
Member since May 2023
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Posted on 9/12/25 at 3:03 pm to
There actually are theories out there that he did follow Fuentes.

Probably bullshite but who knows at this point?
Posted by Lonnie Utah
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Member since Jul 2012
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Posted on 9/12/25 at 3:05 pm to
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They’re definitely going for the death penalty against this human shite stain. I’d like it if they brought back public hanging just for him.




Based on Ut law, the last part of this is key. One of the aggravated murder conditions that allow prosecutors to seek the death penalty is putting others at grave risk of injury of death. That's exactly how the probable cause statement is worded.
Posted by OMLandshark
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Posted on 9/12/25 at 3:05 pm to

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