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re: Charlie Kirk Assassinated at Utah Valley University

Posted on 9/12/25 at 12:52 pm to
Posted by Pettifogger
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Posted on 9/12/25 at 12:52 pm to
Agreed. If you're for (some reason) dedicated to the trans culture cause, I can understand being miffed at attributing it exclusively to that erroneously. Although certainly I'm not shedding tears over an insane, hostile, violent element being inaccurately blamed.

But it's not like trans ideology doesn't have a huge foothold in the radical left in America and in Antifa-like circles generally, pretty much any such protest will have activism relating to transgender militancy. They're hand in glove. I'd argue it's probably the most "core" sacred cow for them at this point, likely because it is so inherently anti-tradition, anti-family, anti-establishment, etc. (anti-realism).
Posted by GRTiger
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Posted on 9/12/25 at 12:52 pm to
His eyes tell me he's either very dumb or dead inside. And apparently he was a very good student.
Posted by SidewalkTiger
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Posted on 9/12/25 at 12:53 pm to
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Agreed. If you're for (some reason) dedicated to the trans culture cause, I can understand being miffed at attributing it exclusively to that erroneously. Although certainly I'm not shedding tears over an insane, hostile, violent element being inaccurately blamed.

But it's not like trans ideology doesn't have a huge foothold in the radical left in America and in Antifa-like circles generally, pretty much any such protest will have activism relating to transgender militancy. They're hand in glove. I'd argue it's probably the most "core" sacred cow for them at this point, likely because it is so inherently anti-tradition, anti-family, anti-establishment, etc. (anti-realism).


100%
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
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Posted on 9/12/25 at 12:54 pm to
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But it's not like trans ideology doesn't have a huge foothold in the radical left in America and in Antifa-like circles generally, pretty much any such protest will have activism relating to transgender militancy


Indeed.
Posted by Hateradedrink
Member since May 2023
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Posted on 9/12/25 at 12:56 pm to
Yes and no. “Trans” shite was the next thing after they won LGB.

Progressivism always has to have a “cause” and there was no where else to go on that particular front.

I think they just underestimated how much push back there would be from regular folks.
Posted by Klark Kent
Houston via BR
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Posted on 9/12/25 at 12:57 pm to
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It truly does not matter. Read the last few pages of this thread. They will see whatever they want to see.


hilarious watching you and Wicked play the “both sides” game for pages and pages and pages in a thread stickied for the assassination of a prominent Conservative voice.

Truly inspiring level of commitment to your side.
Posted by OMLandshark
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Posted on 9/12/25 at 12:59 pm to

This post was edited on 4/30/26 at 10:43 pm
Posted by Pettifogger
I don't really care, Margaret
Member since Feb 2012
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Posted on 9/12/25 at 1:00 pm to
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Yes and no. “Trans” shite was the next thing after they won LGB.

Progressivism always has to have a “cause” and there was no where else to go on that particular front.

I think they just underestimated how much push back there would be from regular folks.


Not sure where the "no" part is coming from - I agree.

I think the reality is that you always have some percentage of a fringe willing to radicalize to a given cause. That percentage (the vulnerable contingent subject to radicalization) has probably grown larger with internet culture.

Moreover, the causes are arguably worse. 55 years ago some of these people would probably be radical in opposition to nuclear power or Vietnam or some elements of black militarism. But the trans movement is a war on humanity and biology, it's a step beyond anything else, IMO. Hence, you're arguably getting more insane results from radicalization than we have in recent decades.
Posted by Foy
Member since Nov 2009
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Posted on 9/12/25 at 1:00 pm to
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Yes and no. “Trans” shite was the next thing after they won LGB.

Progressivism always has to have a “cause” and there was no where else to go on that particular front.

I think they just underestimated how much push back there would be from regular folks.


This is not my issue and it is obviously a distraction from real, material ways in which this country is decaying. Do not care to argue anything about trans people with anyone (especially not here).

The larger point is that there's a huge percentage of the population that will believe anything their timeline feeds them, because it's not the MSM. It's Patriots just like me. The left version of Rodger and OM's timeline is currently going off about his dad being LEO, family seemingly being conservative, etc.

Meaningless waste of time and energy and only benefits the people making cold hard cash off of it.
Posted by junkfunky
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Posted on 9/12/25 at 1:00 pm to
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What about the media that incorrectly reported it being a pro-trans deal?


Get off the struggle bus, dude.
Posted by Hateradedrink
Member since May 2023
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Posted on 9/12/25 at 1:01 pm to
The “no” is coming from tranny shite being core to democrats.

I don’t think there’s many there who actually give a frick about it, they just let the asylum run with it because it was convenient.
Posted by OMLandshark
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Posted on 9/12/25 at 1:02 pm to
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This post was edited on 4/30/26 at 10:43 pm
Posted by Macintosh
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Posted on 9/12/25 at 1:03 pm to
Exactly they claim the right are fascists yet they’re the ones killing and celebrating the deaths of polarizing republicans
Posted by Klark Kent
Houston via BR
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Posted on 9/12/25 at 1:03 pm to
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I don’t think there’s many there who actually give a frick about it, they just let the asylum run with it because it was convenient.


why?
Posted by Hateradedrink
Member since May 2023
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Posted on 9/12/25 at 1:04 pm to
Why do I think that, or why did they let the asylum run with it?
Posted by Klark Kent
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Posted on 9/12/25 at 1:04 pm to
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why did they let the asylum run with it?
Posted by Foy
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Posted on 9/12/25 at 1:05 pm to
The better question is who is this ubiquitous they?
Posted by Pettifogger
I don't really care, Margaret
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Posted on 9/12/25 at 1:07 pm to
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The “no” is coming from tranny shite being core to democrats.



I didn't mean (or say, I think) Democrats.

I mean the 10-20% of the left that is driving the bus off the cliff. Even some of those probably don't truly buy the trans stuff, but it's a litmus test and it trickles down. You have women all over the country who should be soccer or tennis moms who are jumping at the opportunity to trans their kid (even if fleeting) for the approval of other, pretty mainstream elements.

I do think that might be fading, let's hope it's a sustained decline.
Posted by Hateradedrink
Member since May 2023
4156 posts
Posted on 9/12/25 at 1:08 pm to
I think it’s because it’s easier to pick on social issues than economic issues, and they needed a “cause”.

Cute slogans like “trans rights are human rights” and “why do you care blah blah blah” are way easier sells than “we need to tax you all 50% to pay off the deficit because we won’t cut spending”.

The asylum picked it up so they thought they could continue the successes of the gay rights movement.


Problem is, they ended up putting mental illness on a pedestal, and that was a turn off for blue collar democrats.
Posted by Foy
Member since Nov 2009
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Posted on 9/12/25 at 1:09 pm to
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are way easier sells than “we need to tax you all 50% to pay off the deficit because we won’t cut spending”.


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