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re: Changing views on mental health

Posted on 7/29/21 at 2:03 pm to
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
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Posted on 7/29/21 at 2:03 pm to
Yeah, today I am skeptical of everything. These
"Mental health" breaks might be just really soft people or it gets more attention than he alternative.

In some high profile cases I lean toward the latter.
Posted by Tbonepatron
Member since Aug 2013
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Posted on 7/29/21 at 2:04 pm to
Posted by dbeck
Member since Nov 2014
29451 posts
Posted on 7/29/21 at 2:07 pm to
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I'm all but certain she doesn't have many worries aside from delivering on the mat.

Never change, OT
Posted by lsugerberbaby
baton rouge
Member since Mar 2008
2761 posts
Posted on 7/29/21 at 2:11 pm to
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Biles has ten times the pressure that you do.


Irrelevant. That's the life she chose. She is not special - everyone deals with pressure...it's just a matter of how you weed through it.
Posted by Hoodie
Donaldsonville, LA
Member since Dec 2019
2994 posts
Posted on 7/29/21 at 2:12 pm to
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Biles can hardly go anywhere without being recognized. If she puts a foot wrong on the balance beam everyone she meets will know about it.


I disagree. I'd wager that most Americans couldn't pick her out of a line-up. She's not as recognizable as a Patrick Mahomes or a Tom Brady or a Drew Brees, for example.
Posted by The Spleen
Member since Dec 2010
38865 posts
Posted on 7/29/21 at 2:16 pm to
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I couldn't help but think this past week that while Simone Biles is under a lot of pressure to perform at a high level, I'm all but certain she doesn't have many worries aside from delivering on the mat. She's more than financially secure from endorsements, and her meals and travel are organized for her.



You do realize she was a gymnast under Larry Nassar, right? A guy convicted of sexually assaulting multiple female gymnasts, including Simone.
Posted by Tbonepatron
Member since Aug 2013
8447 posts
Posted on 7/29/21 at 2:18 pm to
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disagree. I'd wager that most Americans couldn't pick her out of a line-up. She's not as recognizable as a Patrick Mahomes or a Tom Brady or a Drew Brees, for example.


If you have watched NBC for more than 5 minutes in the last 6 months you’ve seen her face. I mean, she’s not Michael Jordan, but she is certainly a recognizable person.
Posted by LSUA 75
Colfax,La.
Member since Jan 2019
3702 posts
Posted on 7/29/21 at 2:18 pm to
I have 2 relatives that are bi-polar,1 is blood relative and 1 by marriage.Both are highly intelligent with advanced degrees,they do very well as long as they take their meds.The problem is keeping them on their meds.The in-law’s husband is able to make her take them so she does well,but it takes a lot of patience on his part to keep her in line.
My cousin hasn’t been able to find a husband with that amount of determination and her life has been a disaster.
Posted by rich4pres
Knoxville
Member since Dec 2016
9766 posts
Posted on 7/29/21 at 2:24 pm to
Even though most people that claim mental issues are probably looking for attention we still have to tread carefully when it comes to mental health. Just last week my cousins wife (who, honestly, seemed like she had it together more than most people) had a mental breakdown over them buying a new house. My cousin, after he calmed her down, went to bed and when he woke up the next morning she was missing and a window was open. It turns out that in the middle of the night she snuck out the window and hung herself in a tree in their backyard. Nobody saw that coming.
Posted by Hoodie
Donaldsonville, LA
Member since Dec 2019
2994 posts
Posted on 7/29/21 at 2:24 pm to
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I'm all but certain she doesn't have many worries aside from delivering on the mat.


Never change, OT




Everyone's got concerns and issues, but in no way is Biles unsure of where her next meal is coming from, dealing with raising children, or making ends meet.

Those things can be easily just as stressful to those going through them than competing at the Olympics. Anyone who's seen hard times would agree.
Posted by mmmmmbeeer
ATL
Member since Nov 2014
7431 posts
Posted on 7/29/21 at 2:24 pm to
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Irrelevant. That's the life she chose. She is not special - everyone deals with pressure...it's just a matter of how you weed through it.


I guess Michael Jordan was a pussy, too. He cited the same reasons, mental exhaustion, when he retired the first time.

And in Biles case, she was concerned about hurting herself and her team. Needless to say, as a gymnast twisting and turning 10 feet up in the air who finds herself completely losing her orientation in mid-air, she faces serious injury if she falls wrong. She about fricked herself up on the vault and that was the straw that broke the camel's back. She knew she was done, so she quit. Takes real balls to quit in that situation, imo.
Posted by Hoodie
Donaldsonville, LA
Member since Dec 2019
2994 posts
Posted on 7/29/21 at 2:26 pm to
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If you have watched NBC for more than 5 minutes in the last 6 months you’ve seen her face. I mean, she’s not Michael Jordan, but she is certainly a recognizable person.




I haven't, but that's just me. Gymnasts aren't exactly larger than life. I don't believe she'd turn heads in an airport.
Posted by lsugerberbaby
baton rouge
Member since Mar 2008
2761 posts
Posted on 7/29/21 at 2:44 pm to
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I guess Michael Jordan was a pussy, too


I didn't call her a pussy.

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He cited the same reasons, mental exhaustion, when he retired the first time.


He did the right thing by retiring then.
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Needless to say, as a gymnast twisting and turning 10 feet up in the air who finds herself completely losing her orientation in mid-air, she faces serious injury if she falls wrong.


Again - Irrelevant. She chose that life of possibly losing her orientation, doing backflips, hitting the floor, breaking ankles, etc.

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Takes real balls to quit in that situation, imo


It takes a good "I don't give a frick about what other people think of me, I'm going to do this because it'll make me happy." It doesn't take balls to quit.

I'm not criticizing Biles, because I don't know her reasons (nor care). All I'm saying is that she isn't special or great or brave for experiencing feelings/ emotions that billions experience.
This post was edited on 7/29/21 at 2:46 pm
Posted by Hoodie
Donaldsonville, LA
Member since Dec 2019
2994 posts
Posted on 7/29/21 at 2:53 pm to
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All I'm saying is that she isn't special or great or brave for experiencing feelings/ emotions that billions experience.


It's as simple as this. Juxtapose what Biles did against what Rocky Balboa said about getting hit and continuing to move forward. Which way would you teach your children?
Posted by WeeWee
Member since Aug 2012
40126 posts
Posted on 7/29/21 at 3:16 pm to
The fact that you felt the need to start a thread concerning this topic confirms that you do not have your mental health under control. If raising awareness about mental health triggers you this much then you probably suffer from generalized anxiety disorder or bipolar disorder.
Posted by kisatchie53
Member since Jul 2011
1964 posts
Posted on 7/29/21 at 3:21 pm to
Anybody here a first responder and have issues like anxiety or PTSD, especially after you started working in the field? I’m always looking for ways to get rid of it, I can be fine but when it hits, it gets dark
Posted by phunkatron
Member since Jun 2019
1444 posts
Posted on 7/29/21 at 3:33 pm to
It's encouraging to see people are more willing to comes to terms with these issues and offer support to others, but I get what you're saying about people using their diagnoses as a crutch.
Posted by Turbeauxdog
Member since Aug 2004
23182 posts
Posted on 7/29/21 at 3:57 pm to
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Do you have specific examples of this?


"Transgender "
This post was edited on 7/29/21 at 3:58 pm
Posted by xxTIMMYxx
Member since Aug 2019
17562 posts
Posted on 7/29/21 at 4:18 pm to
They embrace it publicly because they are looking for attention and special privileges
Posted by Motorboat
At the camp
Member since Oct 2007
22681 posts
Posted on 7/29/21 at 4:27 pm to
I agree that a bunch of people make mental illness part of their identity. I also agree that the medium through which they transmit their identity (social media) causes more mental illness.

I used to be very cynical about mental illness until I started having anxiety and depression that affected my job and family. I am now much more aware of it and probably would not be as willing to address it had I not seen the proliferation of others dealing with it.

Society has changed so much--too much stimuli, too much division, etc. We all need the skills to cope with it. I will never use my problems as an excuse--illnesses are supposed to be overcome and a part of who a person is.
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