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re: Central Pastor church charged, accused of disobeying governor’s order

Posted on 3/31/20 at 1:36 pm to
Posted by Thib-a-doe Tiger
Member since Nov 2012
36812 posts
Posted on 3/31/20 at 1:36 pm to
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So you're against interaction, but are defending the church that had over 500 people interact with one another?




No, I'm saying people should have the right to interact or not interact as they see fit.


If a non-churchgoer contracted Covid from a church goer, they obviously had some interaction and did not follow the recommendations to self quarantine
Posted by SEClint
New Orleans, LA/Portland, OR
Member since Nov 2006
49487 posts
Posted on 3/31/20 at 1:38 pm to
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I'm just here to argue baw, and I'm having a good time. 


same

Religion + government threads are fun for stirring shite on a boring day
Posted by Broski
Member since Jun 2011
83339 posts
Posted on 3/31/20 at 1:38 pm to
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No, I'm saying people should have the right to interact or not interact as they see fit.



What if "as they see fit" endangers other people?

For example a chance encounter during an "essential run" to the grocery store?
Posted by SEClint
New Orleans, LA/Portland, OR
Member since Nov 2006
49487 posts
Posted on 3/31/20 at 1:41 pm to
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For example a chance encounter during an "essential run" to the grocery store?


What if the person going to the store takes precautions? Gloves, mask, sanitization, distancing etc. As opposed to jeans and a t shirt?

And getting food imo is more essential than paying tithes
This post was edited on 3/31/20 at 1:42 pm
Posted by Thib-a-doe Tiger
Member since Nov 2012
36812 posts
Posted on 3/31/20 at 1:42 pm to
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For example a chance encounter during an "essential run" to the grocery store?




what if the doctors and nurses that are treating all of these patients shop at the same store?


You're fooling yourself if you don't believe that the majority of Americans haven't already had some form of contact with this virus
Posted by billjamin
Houston
Member since Jun 2019
19080 posts
Posted on 3/31/20 at 1:42 pm to
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Consider it community teaching outreach.



I rather enjoy that they charged this asshat. I really hope they put a double nail in his coffin and revoke his 501(c)(3) status and make him pay a boat load of taxes.
Posted by Broski
Member since Jun 2011
83339 posts
Posted on 3/31/20 at 1:42 pm to
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And getting food imo is more essential than paying tithes



No shite, that was my point.

What if someone at the grocery story got Corona from a church-goer?
Posted by SEClint
New Orleans, LA/Portland, OR
Member since Nov 2006
49487 posts
Posted on 3/31/20 at 1:43 pm to
Im agreeing lol cant hear expression in print.

ETA

Just, easier to forgive a person when you see they are at least trying to be safe
This post was edited on 3/31/20 at 1:45 pm
Posted by Broski
Member since Jun 2011
83339 posts
Posted on 3/31/20 at 1:45 pm to
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You're fooling yourself if you don't believe that the majority of Americans haven't already had some form of contact with this virus



And because of that, it makes it ok to have gatherings of more than 500 people?

You can't seriously be this moronic.
Posted by Thib-a-doe Tiger
Member since Nov 2012
36812 posts
Posted on 3/31/20 at 1:45 pm to
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What if someone at the grocery story got Corona from a church-goer?





What if they get it from a healthcare worker or postal worker?
Posted by Thib-a-doe Tiger
Member since Nov 2012
36812 posts
Posted on 3/31/20 at 1:46 pm to
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And because of that, it makes it ok to have gatherings of more than 500 people?

You can't seriously be this moronic.



Why not? The government had been throwing arbitrary numbers for how many can gather for weeks
Posted by Broski
Member since Jun 2011
83339 posts
Posted on 3/31/20 at 1:47 pm to
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Why not? The government had been throwing arbitrary numbers for how many can gather for weeks



Yep, you really are that moronic.


Have a good day, champ.
Posted by PrivatePublic
Member since Nov 2012
17848 posts
Posted on 3/31/20 at 1:48 pm to
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He has a constitutional right to assemble. 


not when it can effect the health of others.


The first amendment is not very long and currently doesn't have an exclusion for the health of others, except for peaceful assembly which no lunatic would argue a church service is not peaceful.

When the hysteria is over, ole man of God is gonna get paid.
Posted by Thib-a-doe Tiger
Member since Nov 2012
36812 posts
Posted on 3/31/20 at 1:49 pm to
no counter to my assessment, so hurl insults, nice
Posted by MrLSU
Yellowstone, Val d'isere
Member since Jan 2004
30083 posts
Posted on 3/31/20 at 1:51 pm to
Look him up and throw away the key so he can meet a Mexican Jesus in prison.
Posted by Broski
Member since Jun 2011
83339 posts
Posted on 3/31/20 at 1:51 pm to
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no counter to my assessment, so hurl insults, nice



Kind of hard to counter something when there is no rhyme or reason to it.
Posted by Thib-a-doe Tiger
Member since Nov 2012
36812 posts
Posted on 3/31/20 at 1:52 pm to
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same

Religion + government threads are fun for stirring shite on a boring day




i ran the lawyers off
Posted by boosiebadazz
Member since Feb 2008
86449 posts
Posted on 3/31/20 at 1:52 pm to
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The first amendment is not very long and currently doesn't have an exclusion for the health of others, except for peaceful assembly which no lunatic would argue a church service is not peaceful.

When the hysteria is over, ole man of God is gonna get paid.


maybe from an increase in donations, but not from the government.
Posted by SEClint
New Orleans, LA/Portland, OR
Member since Nov 2006
49487 posts
Posted on 3/31/20 at 1:53 pm to
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The first amendment is not very long and currently doesn't have an exclusion for the health of others, except for peaceful assembly which no lunatic would argue a church service is not peaceful. 



When it becomes a cause for public safety during a global pandemic, there needs to be followup.

Put it to a vote right now, may not pass. Have the vote a month or two from now and it may.
Posted by Antonio Moss
The South
Member since Mar 2006
49580 posts
Posted on 3/31/20 at 1:53 pm to
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The government dictating what businesses can operate, what businesses must make, etc. is the absolute perfect example of communism in action.


Nope.

Communism would first require socialism which is government ownership of the means of production and distribution.

We don't have that. We didn't have it two months ago. We don't have it now. We won't have it in two months.

Communism necessitates a complete lack of government.

Like I said, you are using terms that you don't understand.

quote:

Denying people constitutionally protected rights is communism in action.


No one is being denied constitutionally protected rights because those rights are not absolute. This is a perfect example of time, place, and manner restrictions due to emergency powers.

quote:

I get it that you believe everything your government tells you (like eating a low fat diet is healthy). As you age, you will realize the government is rarely right about anything and every crisis is used as a way to eliminate freedoms and liberties. At some point you have to draw a line or you'll have nothing left.


Thanks for the advice. I'll be sure to store it.
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