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re: CDC weighs increasing time between vaccine doses to lower risk of heart inflammation

Posted on 2/7/22 at 2:22 pm to
Posted by lsupride87
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Posted on 2/7/22 at 2:22 pm to
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Covid causing an individual any serious problems is an extremely rare occurrence.
You want to talk about the chances someone gets myocarditis from the vaccine and needs hospitalization and or causes death vs the rate of covid causing hospitalization and or death?

In Louisiana alone, there are roughly 700 people in the hospital because of covid. How many people do you reckon are in the hospital worldwide right now for vaccine induced myocarditis?
This post was edited on 2/7/22 at 2:25 pm
Posted by leftyloosey
Member since Jan 2022
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Posted on 2/7/22 at 2:24 pm to
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Although rare, myocarditis is a side effect seen in the Pfizer and Moderna shots and appears to be most common with young men. Most cases are mild and resolve quickly.


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although rare


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most cases


It's rare but we've seen enough cases to study it and make a statistical claim about it.
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 2/7/22 at 2:25 pm to
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It's rare but we've seen enough cases to study it and make a statistical claim about it.
What point do you think you are making?
Posted by Philzilla2k
Member since Oct 2017
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Posted on 2/7/22 at 2:25 pm to
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rate of covid causing hospitalization and or death?

Don’t forget to factor in comorbidities in your equations, fatties.
Posted by leftyloosey
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Posted on 2/7/22 at 2:26 pm to
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This post was edited on 2/7/22 at 2:29 pm
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 2/7/22 at 2:28 pm to
I honestly have no idea what point you think you are making. . It seems you think there has never been studies or inferences made of rare diseases or side effects
Posted by STEVED00
Member since May 2007
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Posted on 2/7/22 at 2:39 pm to
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It's rare but we've seen enough cases to study it and make a statistical claim about it.
What point do you think you are making?


The point I took from it was that powers that be were encouraging kids and young adults to take (even if they already had Covid) knowing that they were extremely low risk for serious illness. Kids were extremely low risk of even mild illness.
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
107923 posts
Posted on 2/7/22 at 2:45 pm to
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The point I took from it was that powers that be were encouraging kids and young adults to take (even if they already had Covid) knowing that they were extremely low risk for serious illness. Kids were extremely low risk of even mild illness.
Thats his point? That makes zero sense

There is a push for all kinds of vaccines for only very mild diseases

Look if you want to start a mandate thread go so that. This thread has NOTHING to do with that. This thread is a ridiculous thread where stout got caught in a web of bulkshit

You are in here arguing with some make believe mouse in your pocket. Nothing in this thread has to do with mandates or anything else you are going on about
This post was edited on 2/7/22 at 2:48 pm
Posted by STEVED00
Member since May 2007
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Posted on 2/7/22 at 3:04 pm to
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You are in here arguing with some make believe mouse in your pocket. Nothing in this thread has to do with mandates or anything else you are going on about


This isn’t about mandates. This was about recommending it. Mandate just made it so much worse. The fact that we are walking back the timing is alarming bc powers that be felt it was so necessary to vaccinate as many as possible in such a short period of time.

This push for the extremely low risk people to be vaccinated was made so we could “get back to normal” and that has been proven to be a waste of time and potentially caused issues for otherwise healthy people.
This post was edited on 2/7/22 at 3:08 pm
Posted by LSUJML
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Posted on 2/7/22 at 3:08 pm to
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There is a push for all kinds of vaccines for only very mild diseases


Which ones are tied to employment?
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
107923 posts
Posted on 2/7/22 at 3:08 pm to
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The fact that we are walking back the timing is alarming bc powers that be felt it was so necessary to vaccinate as many as possible in such a short period of time.
They are talking about the timing between the 3rd and 4th shots…..That isn’t walking anything back, we are just getting to that bridge. And it’s specifically for immunocompromised individuals as well.

And they have been forthcoming about myocarditis the entire time. That is all this thread is about….
This post was edited on 2/7/22 at 3:10 pm
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
107923 posts
Posted on 2/7/22 at 3:08 pm to
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Which ones are tied to employment?

Flu for me

MMRV as well
This post was edited on 2/7/22 at 3:09 pm
Posted by STEVED00
Member since May 2007
23041 posts
Posted on 2/7/22 at 3:22 pm to
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And they have been forthcoming about myocarditis the entire time. That is all this thread is about….



How so?
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
107923 posts
Posted on 2/7/22 at 3:25 pm to
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How so?
How so what? Did you miss the multiple linked articles dating acc Kyler April of 2021 and the CDC talking about the incident rates of myocarditis post vaccination?
Posted by Strannix
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Member since Dec 2012
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Posted on 2/7/22 at 3:29 pm to
I told all these low IQ ot nurses and dumbasses from day one, no they didn't wanna listen to big daddy Straanix
Posted by STEVED00
Member since May 2007
23041 posts
Posted on 2/7/22 at 3:35 pm to
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How so what? Did you miss the multiple linked articles dating acc Kyler April of 2021 and the CDC talking about the incident rates of myocarditis post vaccination?



So in April 2021, a couple of months in to vaccination where basically only people over 50 were vaccinated excluding health workers the CDC had vaccination myocarditis all figured out?
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
107923 posts
Posted on 2/7/22 at 3:37 pm to
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So in April 2021, a couple of months in to vaccination where basically only people over 50 were vaccinated excluding health workers the CDC had vaccination myocarditis all figured out?
What? You are all over the place man

In April 2021 the CDC released there was instances of myocarditis post vaccination, and that further study would take place. Their was no “hiding it”

In June they realized their first study with incident rates

This post was edited on 2/7/22 at 3:38 pm
Posted by STEVED00
Member since May 2007
23041 posts
Posted on 2/7/22 at 3:44 pm to
So CDC decided in June that it’s nothing to concern ourselves with. Got it.
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
107923 posts
Posted on 2/7/22 at 3:47 pm to
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So CDC decided in June that it’s nothing to concern ourselves with. Got it.
Are you lost man? In June the CDC said the exact same thing as “this bombshell new admission”

It’s rare and benign. And they provided the data. You need to let stout take his L in this thread
This post was edited on 2/7/22 at 3:48 pm
Posted by DeathValley85
Member since May 2011
18808 posts
Posted on 2/7/22 at 3:54 pm to
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kinda how vaccines typically work, but ok


Back in my day getting a vaccine meant you were vaccinated. Covid vaccine doesn’t do shite.
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