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re: CDC warns COVID-19 may be a few mutations away from evading vaccines

Posted on 7/27/21 at 10:13 pm to
Posted by GRTiger
On a roof eating alligator pie
Member since Dec 2008
66140 posts
Posted on 7/27/21 at 10:13 pm to
The context is the fact that we've gone from talking about deaths, to hospitalizations, to cases, to percentages is a good thing and probably means we only keep talking about any of it because we're bored and life is easy.
Posted by WDE24
Member since Oct 2010
54697 posts
Posted on 7/27/21 at 10:15 pm to
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why do I want to compromise my health further with an experimental mRNA shot?


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So if being vaxxed doesn't prevent me getting or transmitting the variants
because it prevents serious illness and death
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
112442 posts
Posted on 7/27/21 at 10:15 pm to
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You are just continuing to reinforce my assertion that you were wholly invested in the vaccines. You were sold the lie that they were almost 100% effective. You blamed skeptics for being likely to cause variants, that would put your vaccine at risk
lol

I've been on record for over a year saying we should never have locked down, stating vaccines shouldn't be mandated and do whatever you want, and also wasn't a vaccine early adopter as I was more on the middle to maybe even late end, and I got the worst of the vaccines, the J&J one solely because I didn't feel like going twice, one shot is fine.

You can't win em all, maybe you'll get your next assertion correct.
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
112442 posts
Posted on 7/27/21 at 10:17 pm to
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Yes but not transmission, which is what was being discussed when shel jumped in to tell everyone they were wrong
And you've made a shite ton of posts and never proved me wrong.
Posted by weagle99
Member since Nov 2011
35893 posts
Posted on 7/27/21 at 10:20 pm to
Posted by Lou
Modesto, CA
Member since Aug 2005
8440 posts
Posted on 7/27/21 at 10:21 pm to
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Could have stopped it. Sad.

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I agree. If only we hadn't let Ditactor Governers ban the use of Ivermectin and hydroxychloroquine in their states

If only it hadn't escaped from the Wuhan lab, or better yet, if they had never created the virus in the first place.
This post was edited on 7/27/21 at 10:24 pm
Posted by League Champs
Bayou Self
Member since Oct 2012
10340 posts
Posted on 7/27/21 at 10:21 pm to
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75.2% hospitalizations

Please provide context.

Posted earlier.
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As of July 10, about 21 per cent of of the population was unvaccinated.

That 21 per cent proportion accounted for 57 per cent of total cases, 75.2 per cent of hospitalizations, 83.9 per cent of ICU admissions and 84.9 per cent of deaths.

Of the 265 deaths reported in that time frame, 225 were among unvaccinated people, while 29 (10.9 per cent) were among those who were partially-vaccinated, and 11 deaths (4.2 per cent) were among the who had received both doses.

Meanwhile, Ontario is reporting 129 new laboratory-confirmed COVID-19 cases and five related deaths Tuesday. - Ottawa Citizen, July 27
Posted by WDE24
Member since Oct 2010
54697 posts
Posted on 7/27/21 at 10:26 pm to
You read that to shore vaccines are proving less effective or are you intentionally trying to play games with percentages?

Only 21% are unvaccinated, yet they account for 75% of the hospitalizations.

You understand that if 100% are vaccinated, then 100% of hospitalizations would be vaccinated, right?

You either are dumb ( I don’t think that to be true) or you are intentionally playing games.

To what end?

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That comes as public health officials have confirmed that only 0.5 per cent of current COVID-19 cases are in Canadians who have been fully vaccinated against the virus, and as a resurgence in cases among unvaccinated populations raises concerns about the possibility of a fourth wave this fall.
This post was edited on 7/27/21 at 10:29 pm
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
112442 posts
Posted on 7/27/21 at 10:27 pm to
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As of July 10, about 21 per cent of of the population was unvaccinated.

That 21 per cent proportion accounted for 57 per cent of total cases, 75.2 per cent of hospitalizations, 83.9 per cent of ICU admissions and 84.9 per cent of deaths.

Of the 265 deaths reported in that time frame, 225 were among unvaccinated people, while 29 (10.9 per cent) were among those who were partially-vaccinated, and 11 deaths (4.2 per cent) were among the who had received both doses.

So basically your entire incorrect assertion of me hinges solely on the fact that I used the word "vast majority" instead of just saying "majority", right?
Posted by League Champs
Bayou Self
Member since Oct 2012
10340 posts
Posted on 7/27/21 at 10:28 pm to
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because it prevents serious illness and death

Well, except for the 4 friends and family members of mine that were fully vaccinated and still died in the last 6 weeks.

As opposed to the 2 that died from COVID in August and October of 2020.
Posted by RB10
Member since Nov 2010
47524 posts
Posted on 7/27/21 at 10:28 pm to
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And you've made a shite ton of posts and never proved me wrong


Except for the CDC announcement, but that doesn’t count because you don’t like their new findings.

Your obsession with not being wrong is something to behold.
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
112442 posts
Posted on 7/27/21 at 10:31 pm to
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Except for the CDC announcement, but that doesn’t count because you don’t like their new findings.
Same CDC that confirmed exactly what I said, that you didn't like?

Or a different CDC?

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Your obsession with not being wrong is something to behold.

Your obsession with trying to prove me wrong is wild, especially given how you can never pull it off. Certainly an A for effort though.
This post was edited on 7/27/21 at 10:32 pm
Posted by The Eric
Member since Sep 2008
22781 posts
Posted on 7/27/21 at 10:32 pm to
Severe disease and death just knocking on your door. 99% chance it’s actually just a DoorDash delivery knocking.
Posted by RB10
Member since Nov 2010
47524 posts
Posted on 7/27/21 at 10:33 pm to
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Your obsession with trying to prove me wrong is wild, especially given how you can never pull it off. Certainly an A for effort though.


No one has ever proven you wrong, according to you. Just ask yourself.

Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
112442 posts
Posted on 7/27/21 at 10:36 pm to
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No one has ever proven you wrong, according to you. Just ask yourself
Nah, lots of people have. You're just not one of them.

And with that, you just failed with a gotcha again, right on cue.
Posted by League Champs
Bayou Self
Member since Oct 2012
10340 posts
Posted on 7/27/21 at 10:36 pm to
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So basically your entire incorrect assertion of me hinges solely on the fact that I used the word "vast majority" instead of just saying "majority", right?

Yeah, because you initially bombarded this thread with overwhelming, and vast, and likelihood of mutations among the unwashed, unvaxxed.

Then when confronted with the reality that the vaxxed are as susceptible, and as likely to pass the virus, you are falling back on the false data of 95%+ effective to claim truthiness.

It's no longer that effective. So no, you cannot now claim your initial contributions are based on facts.
Posted by RB10
Member since Nov 2010
47524 posts
Posted on 7/27/21 at 10:38 pm to
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Nah, lots of people have. You're just not one of them.


Yeah it wasn’t me today. It was the CDC.

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And with that, you just failed with a gotcha again, right on cue.


Link one post where you admit to being wrong then. Lots of people have proven it so it should be easy.

I’ll wait.
Posted by WDE24
Member since Oct 2010
54697 posts
Posted on 7/27/21 at 10:40 pm to
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you are falling back on the false data of 95%+ effective to claim truthiness.
What does the data show as far as percentage of those vaccinated who have been hospitalized?
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It's no longer that effective.
The data, even that cited by you, shows extreme effectiveness.
Posted by Bill Parker?
Member since Jan 2013
4995 posts
Posted on 7/27/21 at 11:01 pm to
When's the next election?
Posted by saderade
America's City
Member since Jul 2005
26016 posts
Posted on 7/27/21 at 11:44 pm to
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Well, except for the 4 friends and family members of mine that were fully vaccinated and still died in the last 6 weeks.
This is bullshite. There were only 30 something fully vaccinated deaths in the state as of 2 weeks ago.
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