- My Forums
- Tiger Rant
- LSU Recruiting
- SEC Rant
- Saints Talk
- Pelicans Talk
- More Sports Board
- Fantasy Sports
- Golf Board
- Soccer Board
- O-T Lounge
- Tech Board
- Home/Garden Board
- Outdoor Board
- Health/Fitness Board
- Movie/TV Board
- Book Board
- Music Board
- Political Talk
- Money Talk
- Fark Board
- Gaming Board
- Travel Board
- Food/Drink Board
- Ticket Exchange
- TD Help Board
Customize My Forums- View All Forums
- Show Left Links
- Topic Sort Options
- Trending Topics
- Recent Topics
- Active Topics
Started By
Message
re: CDC warns COVID-19 may be a few mutations away from evading vaccines
Posted on 7/27/21 at 9:18 pm to stout
Posted on 7/27/21 at 9:18 pm to stout
quote:
CDC warns COVID-19 may be a few mutations away from evading vaccines
One would think Biden would close the southern border if it were so dangerous, instead of bussing illegals who are possibly covid positive, all over America!
2
Posted on 7/27/21 at 9:19 pm to RB10
quote:So others have proved me wrong by posting data specifically about the variant, but also believe CDC isn't testing for the variant?
Just because you were wrong doesn't mean everyone was wrong.
You sure that's what you wanna go with here?
Dude isn't even trying to hide it at this point lol.
Posted on 7/27/21 at 9:20 pm to WaWaWeeWa
Many were not fully vaccinated in January.
The facility where I consult started vaccinating on January 5th I believe. They wouldn't have been fully vaccinated until early February.
The facility where I consult started vaccinating on January 5th I believe. They wouldn't have been fully vaccinated until early February.
This post was edited on 7/27/21 at 9:23 pm
Posted on 7/27/21 at 9:21 pm to shel311
quote:
oh he's big mad that he had to change his start date from when vaccines started to 1 month after vaccines started
I never changed anything.
I said that we didn’t start administering significant amount of vaccines until January.
IN ADDITION, you can also consider that you aren’t immune as soon as the vaccine is administered, it takes a month.
You are intentionally playing dumb like you don’t understand the basic facts.
Posted on 7/27/21 at 9:21 pm to shel311
quote:
So others have proved me wrong by posting data specifically about the variant, but also believe CDC isn't testing for the variant?
You sure that's what you wanna go with here?
The CDC has said vaccinated and unvaccinated are carrying the same viral load when they test positive. Would you like to tell us all how they aren't both transmitting the virus again?
Posted on 7/27/21 at 9:22 pm to tiger91
quote:
The facility where I consult started vaccinating on January 5th I believe. They wouldn't have been fully vaccinated until early February.
Thank you. And that’s a nursing home, the first people to receive the vaccine.
It’s pretty simple. For some reason shel just wants to be an arse.
Posted on 7/27/21 at 9:24 pm to WaWaWeeWa
Yep .. they were one of the first in the area to sign up for it.
Posted on 7/27/21 at 9:25 pm to WaWaWeeWa
quote:
IN ADDITION, you can also consider that you aren’t immune as soon as the vaccine is administered, it takes a month.
Pay attention when the next vaccinated person dies of Covid. See if the first questions asked aren't "did they have both shots?" and "how long ago were they vaccinated?"
Two good questions that wouldn't help them in this specific discussion.
Posted on 7/27/21 at 9:26 pm to WaWaWeeWa
quote:You know we can go back and see what you actually said, right?
I never changed anything.
I said that we didn’t start administering significant amount of vaccines until January
quote:This is what you actually said. And when pointed out that it started in December you then changed to what you're now saying in this post.
We didn’t start vaccinating until January. Then you have to wait 2 weeks between doses then it’s not effective for another 2 weeks.
So yes, you certainly changed what you said.
quote:Biiiiiig mad he got caught moving the goalposts.
You are intentionally playing dumb like you don’t understand the basic facts.
Posted on 7/27/21 at 9:26 pm to shel311
quote:
Trying to figure out how this shows me to be wrong or willfully ignorant?
I haven't gotten through the whole thread to read all the posters comments, but you were clearly bashing Stout and others early on. You were using faulty or old CDC info, and not recognizing the landscape was changing. The CDC is lying to us all. The vaccine is rapidly losing effectiveness. Bashing people on with unverifiable CDC data was why I noticed you in this thread.
quote:
It lessens the spread and symptoms.
Unless you're one of those people who just claim Ira bull shite that the vast majority of people dying and on ventilators are unvaccinated.
quote:
then posts an article about the variant that could only be so if they're testing for the variant.
quote:
unvaccinated people are absolutely contracting and dying of Covid at a much higher rate than vaccinated. These are just facts
quote:
"the vast majority of transmission, the vast majority of severe disease, hospitalization, and death is almost exclusively happening among unvaccinated people."quote:
Like I said, thus showing my statement to be 100% correct.
None of your above statements are true in the current landscape, except by using faulty data.
Singapore, UK, Israel, Canada all are reporting rapid infection among their fully vaccinated. The US is not, while they push more restrictions (which Sweden showed doesn't work) unless people acquiesce to a failing vaccine.
Posted on 7/27/21 at 9:27 pm to WaWaWeeWa
I received mine mid-late December but I was quite literally in the first 20 or so at my hospital to get it.
I freely admit I wasn’t very happy about it and puckered a bit
But someone had to be first and take it for the team
I freely admit I wasn’t very happy about it and puckered a bit
But someone had to be first and take it for the team
Posted on 7/27/21 at 9:28 pm to shel311
All that being said, if someone told you that most covid deaths in January were unvaccinated, would you not wonder at some point how many people were actually fully vaccinated at the time? Like for context?
What percent of the population was fully vaccinated as of 1/1/21? I don't know the answer, but you are at least implying that you do.
What percent of the population was fully vaccinated as of 1/1/21? I don't know the answer, but you are at least implying that you do.
Posted on 7/27/21 at 9:29 pm to RB10
quote:In the delta variant, that you also agreed wasn't being tested for.
The CDC has said vaccinated and unvaccinated are carrying the same viral load when they test positive
So... Which is it?
quote:never said vaccinated doesn't transmit the virus, but would you like to tell me how the CDC arrived at vaccinated and unvaccinated are carrying the same viral load for the delta variant AND they're not testing for the delta variant?
Would you like to tell us all how they aren't both transmitting the virus again?
Posted on 7/27/21 at 9:30 pm to Revelator
quote:
One would think Biden would close the southern border if it were so dangerous, instead of bussing illegals who are possibly covid positive, all over America!
But Biden has a plan to stop covid. He told me so many times before the election.
Biden's has killed 176,000 American's with his plan. Yeah, great plan, did his buddy Cuomo come up with this plan?
This post was edited on 7/27/21 at 9:35 pm
Posted on 7/27/21 at 9:30 pm to shel311
quote:
This is what you actually said. And when pointed out that it started in December you then changed to what you're now saying in this post. So yes, you certainly changed what you said.
It didn’t start in December dumbass.
Yea you can go find a handful of people and some healthcare providers that had gotten their first shots but I said Less than 1% of the population had been vaccinated at the beginning of January.
I stand by that.
quote:
Biiiiiig mad he got caught moving the goalposts.
You are changing the subject because you realize how dumb it is to say 2.2% of the deaths are in vaccinated SINCE JANUARY
This post was edited on 7/27/21 at 9:32 pm
Posted on 7/27/21 at 9:31 pm to League Champs
quote:Singapore, for example, is greater than 75% vaccinated. They are seeing infections, but not serious illness among the vaccinated. With 75% or more vaccinated, it’s not surprising that infections are made up of a higher percentage vaccinated. Don’t be disingenuous by equating infections with serious illness.
Singapore, UK, Israel, Canada all are reporting rapid infection among their fully vaccinated.
It’s also not all the same vaccines. Each has a different rate of effectiveness, but most have proven very effective at preventing serious illness.
This post was edited on 7/27/21 at 9:34 pm
Posted on 7/27/21 at 9:31 pm to League Champs
quote:the UK just reported the vaccine is 88% effective at preventing symptomatic infection
Singapore, UK, Israel, Canada all are reporting rapid infection among their fully vaccinated
Posted on 7/27/21 at 9:33 pm to GRTiger
quote:
All that being said, if someone told you that most covid deaths in January were unvaccinated, would you not wonder at some point how many people were actually fully vaccinated at the time? Like for context?
Exactly and the deaths REPORTED in January definitely died in December at least and were likely infected in November.
Anyone that can’t understand this argument is a moron or willfully ignorant
Posted on 7/27/21 at 9:34 pm to shel311
quote:
So others have proved me wrong by posting data specifically about the variant, but also believe CDC isn't testing for the variant?
Nice try, but I used data from Sweden, Israel, UK, Singapore and Canada, specifically because the CDC is intentionally lying about this virus. That's why I threw in the mask comment. The CDC is going back to a restriction that failed miserably when previously imposed.
They are lying about vaxxed data, so they can push the vaccines until their lies can no longer hide the ineffectiveness.
Posted on 7/27/21 at 9:36 pm to League Champs
quote:My statement you quoted:
None of your above statements are true in the current landscape, except by using faulty data.
quote:
unvaccinated people are absolutely contracting and dying of Covid at a much higher rate than vaccinated. These are just facts
A quote from a post of yours:
quote:Is this faulty data? You posted it. Honest question, this data confirms what I said in the quote that you stated is not true, so is it faulty?
Unvaccinated population accounted for 57 per cent of total cases, 75.2 per cent of hospitalizations, 83.9 per cent of ICU admissions and 84.9 per cent of deaths.
Of the 265 deaths reported in that time frame, 225 were among unvaccinated people (84.9%).
Page 11 of 14
Popular
Back to top
Follow TigerDroppings for LSU Football News