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re: Catholics to excommunicate priests who follows Washington law about reporting child abuse
Posted on 5/7/25 at 8:33 pm to OysterPoBoy
Posted on 5/7/25 at 8:33 pm to OysterPoBoy
Pretty sure that oath included not raping children.
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Posted on 5/7/25 at 8:34 pm to jizzle6609
quote:Well not believing in purgatory, priestly authority or excommunication from the Church of Rome, I would have an easy choice.
I would gladly pay for it in purgatory if it saved kids from being touched, thats a fact.
But this discussion involves people who do believe these things and our Constitution protects their right to act on their beliefs.
Posted on 5/7/25 at 8:58 pm to OysterPoBoy
Took an oath to who? Think about what you are saying here. An oath to God? An oath to the “church”?
Scripture says”Be of a surety, your sins will find you out”.
Pedos are the scum of the earth and should be treated as such
Scripture says”Be of a surety, your sins will find you out”.
Pedos are the scum of the earth and should be treated as such
Posted on 5/7/25 at 10:27 pm to Rabby
Right on, cachetón
Posted on 5/7/25 at 11:10 pm to Sterling Archer
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That would hold weight if the Catholic church didn't have a very long history of protecting child abusers
Couldn’t one say this about doctors in California, Oregon etc? Not to mention, you know, the ones caught in Texas hiding information from the parents. Wouldn’t this confessional be treated let’s say like an attorney treats a client. Hmm interesting it’s ok when moneys involved for the attorney to defend a child molestor. Who knows all of what they get told and don’t disclose because they are such stand up individuals for the most part right?
But because it’s a “priest” in the Catholic Church it’s literally held to a hypocritically high standard when you assholes know even the pope is just a fricking man. It’s hilarious bc half of you are atheist or agnostic so why you would hold a priest to any standard is beyond me. Makes no sense. You don’t believe in God so why are you holding a priest to such a high standard when it doesn’t matter? It’s because those **** know it matters deep down inside and they are playing it safe in the off chance they meet their maker.
So let’s get this straight right now. It’s ok for a doctor to administer biological drugs to a minor without their parents consent and that’s perfectly fine but if you hear a confession about touching a kid you are scum of the earth. Mind blowing hypocrisy.
You physically did nothing while the doctor just literally fricked off a 12 year olds LIFE, the entire thing is irreversibly fricked. Completely ruined. 50% chance of blowing whatever the frick they say they ares head off. This isnt hyperbole anymore, damn near 50% blow their fricking heads off and yet let’s go frick with the Catholics.
How motherfricking convenient.
This post was edited on 5/8/25 at 12:01 am
Posted on 5/7/25 at 11:25 pm to GreenRockTiger
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ironically they don’t want to be)
God leading them to what their duty is. We all have them and we all have to pay a price for things we do sometimes.
Again, priest are people. Human people. They are not and never will be anywhere near Jesus.
Yet here we are. Held to an incredibly high standard and now should be treated differently than other professions who, if the roles were reversed wouldn’t have to disclose a word. You’d hear the attorneys name once and the whole thing would die.
I know I’m right about my faith at this point in my life.
This post was edited on 5/7/25 at 11:27 pm
Posted on 5/7/25 at 11:38 pm to More beer please
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Do they also take an oath not to diddle little kids?
They get excommunicated for ratting out pedophiles and reassigned when they are pedophiles.
Posted on 5/7/25 at 11:46 pm to jizzle6609
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jizzle6609
Yes, one could say the same against everyone you mentioned and I would 100% agree.
Teachers hiding shite from parents, kids (via adults) making choices about their bodies when they can't even legally be trusted to drive a car, scummy attorneys protecting sickos..I'm against all of that. When it comes to protecting kids, I want the same standards held across the aboard.
Posted on 5/8/25 at 12:05 am to Sterling Archer
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Yes, one could say the same against everyone you mentioned and I would 100% agree.
Roger that, I’m not trying to be rude in the past posts it’s just frustrating seeing standards adjusted pretty much everywhere yet you are only told to look at the most pointless organization on earth according to most, the Catholic Church.
Any non Catholics out there should really think about why that is.
Posted on 5/8/25 at 12:19 am to More beer please
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Who is yall?
Any and literally all other religions except maybe the Mormons.
Nevermind not even the Mormons.
This post was edited on 5/8/25 at 12:21 am
Posted on 5/8/25 at 5:12 am to Indefatigable
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They may not have been supposed to do it but nothing happened when they did.
It’s automatic excommunication. What are you talking about?
So what? They are tossed out of the club? WHO CARES??? You can rest assured in the history of the church priests have divulged secrets and used confessions to their advantage with umpugnity because what the hell is supposed to happen? A non existent god is going to punish them? Santa Claus is as likely not visit them....
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It’s Canon Law. Nothing disclosed during confession is allowed to be disclosed by the priest. Have some broken that seal? Sure. But the Church does not allow it under any circumstance.
Again, who gives a rats arse? The church is in no position to claim any sort of moral superiority in many if any areas but certainly not in reporting child abuse. neglect and molestation....the fact that it is even a question is indicative of where the leadership of the church is when it comes to buggering kids....and should be a bridge too far for any person who is a Catholic...defending it is, at best, being an accessory.....
Posted on 5/8/25 at 5:50 am to AwgustaDawg
I know people have their opinions on the Catholics but bottom line is Washington legislature knows that priests are not allowed to reveal what is discussed during a confession. The result will be priest will have to make a decision to either break his vows to the Church or go to jail.
This post was edited on 5/8/25 at 5:55 am
Posted on 5/8/25 at 6:02 am to GreenRockTiger
Christ clearly gave his apostles the power to forgive sin. It's stated as such in the Bible, "who sin's you forgive are forgive, who's sins you retain are retained."
The idea of confession is to forgive sins, that would be retarded by the idea that confessing would also be a legal act, prone to discovery by some anti-Christina DA. Confession is not some cheap therapy session, it's a sacrament and as such is not going to bend to the will of ignorant protestants or their friends the anti-Christian leftwing secularist of Washington.
The Church has fought off these attacks before and will do so again
The idea of confession is to forgive sins, that would be retarded by the idea that confessing would also be a legal act, prone to discovery by some anti-Christina DA. Confession is not some cheap therapy session, it's a sacrament and as such is not going to bend to the will of ignorant protestants or their friends the anti-Christian leftwing secularist of Washington.
The Church has fought off these attacks before and will do so again
Posted on 5/8/25 at 7:14 am to AwgustaDawg
How many child abusers do you think are actually going to confession? And even IF one of them did go, wouldn’t you assume they were going because they believed their sins would be forgiven? And if they truly believed this, wouldn’t they also care about following through on what the priest tells them they have to do in order to be absolved of their sins? Do you see where I’m going with this?
Use your head next time
Use your head next time
Posted on 5/8/25 at 7:40 am to icecreamsnowball
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How many child abusers do you think are actually going to confession? And even IF one of them did go, wouldn’t you assume they were going because they believed their sins would be forgiven? And if they truly believed this, wouldn’t they also care about following through on what the priest tells them they have to do in order to be absolved of their sins? Do you see where I’m going with this?
Use your head next time
I seriously doubt if anyone has ever owned up to molesting a child to a priest in confessional because criminals seldom trust anyone. Its not difficult to imagine, given the history of preachers and child molestation, that some animal would brag to a priest about their sick actions thinking the priest would appreciate the story and the priest actually doing so. The idea that a priest is somehow bound to a non-existent god to remain quite should that unlikely event take place is ludicrous and the idea that some Catholics are not only OK with that insanity but would expect it because that's what the church teaches them is nothing short of evil.
So the extent of responsibility' on the part of Gods representative in the largest Christian sect, when he is told of an adult sexually molesting a child is to encourage the adult to what, turn themselves in? Bless the evil bastard? The church has a history of covering up such knowledge and shipping guilty priests to other areas where more unsuspecting victims are exposed to the evil. Claiming some sort of twisted form or attorney client privledge is a seriously bad look and one no Catholic should tolerate let alone defend.
Posted on 5/8/25 at 7:44 am to AwgustaDawg
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Its not difficult to imagine, given the history of preachers and child molestation, that some animal would brag to a priest about their sick actions thinking the priest would appreciate the story and the priest actually doing so
Stopped reading here. That’s so absurd. You’re way too emotional and irrational to have an actual conversation with
Posted on 5/8/25 at 8:04 am to icecreamsnowball
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Stopped reading here. That’s so absurd. You’re way too emotional and irrational to have an actual conversation with
Must be a day that ends in Y.
Posted on 5/8/25 at 8:29 am to STEVED00
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I know people have their opinions on the Catholics but bottom line is Washington legislature knows that priests are not allowed to reveal what is discussed during a confession. The result will be priest will have to make a decision to either break his vows to the Church or go to jail.
Boy, I can’t wait to see what happens when the new pope is a hardliner.
I’ll clue everyone in on how this goes down. As soon as Washington tells the Catholic Church that priest are subject to arrest a couple significant things will happen.
Now, before I get to that let’s understand that a person can confess to a pedophilic crime in 2019 and not get arrested until 2025. Ask yourself how many perps when caught might tell the police they confessed this back in 2019? Ponder that.
1. Unemployment will skyrocket within a month in America and we aren’t talking low paying jobs people. We are talking big money. Market moving money here.
2. The majority of the free healthcare Americans enjoy is Catholic funded, yes me and my people pay the majority of that.
3. The stock market will plummet.
Posted on 5/8/25 at 8:29 am to icecreamsnowball
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How many child abusers do you think are actually going to confession?
Precisely 17.
Posted on 7/18/25 at 1:32 pm to Sterling Archer
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WASHINGTON – A federal court today blocked a new Washington state law that would have forced Catholic priests to face jail time unless they broke the sacred seal of confession.
The law at issue in Etienne v. Ferguson, which was set to take effect on July 27, required clergy to report abuse shared within the sacred confines of the confessional. WilmerHale and co-counsel Becket and First Liberty Institute represent the lead plaintiffs Archbishop Paul D. Etienne, Bishop Joseph J. Tyson, and Bishop Thomas A. Daly, who filed an initial lawsuit earlier this summer.
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