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re: Catholic Priest: Jesus Christ Was A Persecuted Palestinian Jew

Posted on 12/25/23 at 6:38 pm to
Posted by Rick9Plus
Baton Rouge
Member since Jul 2020
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Posted on 12/25/23 at 6:38 pm to
“Can’t we just all get along?” I mean, I see what he’s trying to do, but something tells me it’s not going to help.
Posted by mattz1122
Member since Oct 2007
55691 posts
Posted on 12/25/23 at 6:38 pm to
He gets us. All of us. Jesus.
Posted by biglego
San Francisco
Member since Nov 2007
83198 posts
Posted on 12/25/23 at 6:41 pm to
If only Israel would lay down their arms, there’d be so much fricking peace in that area.
Posted by The Egg
Houston, TX
Member since Dec 2004
83274 posts
Posted on 12/25/23 at 6:41 pm to
And catholics will continue to eat this dumb shite up and keep giving twice each mass.
Posted by ob1pimpbobi
College Station
Member since Jul 2022
3043 posts
Posted on 12/25/23 at 6:42 pm to
I'm so glad I am not Catholic. I'm a Christian, but damn you guys have alot of fires to deal with.
Posted by chRxis
None of your fricking business
Member since Feb 2008
26714 posts
Posted on 12/25/23 at 6:45 pm to
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Jesus Christ is not a Palestinian Jew. He is God.

not according to the Nicene Creed... or are you a non-Trinitarian believer?

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To trivialize who Jesus IS by referring to him as a race or ethnicity is to miss out on who Jesus is,

bro, you are WAYYYYY overthinking this... the dude wasn't commenting on the divinity of Jesus... he's clearly speaking on the historicity of the actual living being that we know as Jesus... why is that hard for you to understand, or why are you insisting on conflating the two to try to score some sort of cool religious points?
Posted by PowerTool
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Member since Dec 2009
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Posted on 12/25/23 at 6:49 pm to
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Prior to working at CNN, he was a media contributor for ABC News, CBS News, Fox News, HLN and MSNBC. He co-hosted Focus on Faith with Chris Cuomo for ABC News from 2009 to 2014.[2] Beck also leads retreats and workshops on spirituality.[1] He lives in New York City.[3]


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Beck also wrote a play, Sweetened Water, which had a staged reading starring Vanessa Williams and Amy Brenneman at Playwrights Horizons theater in New York City in January 2015 and an Equity production in the summer of 2015 at Martha's Vineyard Playhouse in Vineyard Haven, Massachusetts. Subsequent readings featured Laila Robins, Josh Lucas, Sean Cullen, Nathan Darrow, Tricia Paoluccio and Meghann Fahy.


What the frick; they defrocked Frank Pavone for focusing too much on Priests for LIfe. They removed a bishop for being too conservative.

But this priest is allowed to be a full-time media pundit and playwrite entertaining the rich folks up at Martha's Vineyard?

Do not like this pope.
Posted by 3nOut
I don't really care, Margaret
Member since Jan 2013
31830 posts
Posted on 12/25/23 at 6:50 pm to
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The state of Isreal did not exist until less than 100 years ago.


So what country/kingdom was the bulk of the Old Testament about?

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The borders of it were much smaller than today and who lived there before the state of Isreal were... you guessed it, Palestinians who were Jewish, Muslim, and Christian.


They weren’t a country. They were a fought over territory where refugees and rejects from the rest of the Middle East ended up while Turkey (Ottomans) and England didn’t know what to do with it. The “country of Palestine” never existed before 1988. They were squatters while two other people were fighting over who actually owned the house.

Not team Israel or anything. They’re assholes and I’m aware the conflict didn’t start October 7.
This post was edited on 12/25/23 at 8:20 pm
Posted by Bestbank Tiger
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Member since Jan 2005
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Posted on 12/25/23 at 6:52 pm to
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entertaining the rich folks up at Martha's Vineyard?


He sounds like a money changer in the temple.
Posted by chRxis
None of your fricking business
Member since Feb 2008
26714 posts
Posted on 12/25/23 at 6:55 pm to
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He sounds like a money changer in the temple.

A LOT of church "leaders" sound like the money changers nowadays... just sayin'
Posted by Mike da Tigah
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Member since Feb 2005
61379 posts
Posted on 12/25/23 at 6:56 pm to
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not according to the Nicene Creed... or are you a non-Trinitarian believer?



There is but one God, and three persons of the Godhead. John 1:1-14 is absolutely who Jesus is. It’s not unclear, and that is critical to salvation. That’s what I believe. That’s what all Christians believe. If you don’t believe that, then there is a fundamental problem in your theology that cannot be overstated.


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bro, you are WAYYYYY overthinking this... the dude wasn't commenting on the divinity of Jesus... he's clearly speaking on the historicity of the actual living being that we know as Jesus... why is that hard for you to understand, or why are you insisting on conflating the two to try to score some sort of cool religious points?


Bro, Jesus is God in the flesh. The reason He came in the form of a Jew was to fulfill prophesy under the Davidic Covenant to the Jew first, and then to the gentiles. Focusing on Christ’s ethnicity instead of who He actually is as God serves absolutely no purpose whatsoever than to play to our racial and ethnic obsessed society that puts more importance on the color of the wrapping paper than the actual gift inside. Even children could care less about the wrapping paper. They tear through it to get to the present on Christmas Day, but not us. We only care about the color of the wrapping paper, never getting to the actual important gift inside.

Posted by Kafka
I am the moral conscience of TD
Member since Jul 2007
154373 posts
Posted on 12/25/23 at 6:57 pm to
This was popular among Wobblies & other reds c. 1917:

Posted by LegendInMyMind
Member since Apr 2019
71870 posts
Posted on 12/25/23 at 6:58 pm to
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Catholic

Too many cooks in the kitchen.
Posted by Darth_Vader
A galaxy far, far away
Member since Dec 2011
72289 posts
Posted on 12/25/23 at 7:10 pm to
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The state of Isreal did not exist until less than 100 years ago.


The Kingdom of Israel was founded over a 1,000 years before the birth of Christ. About 900 BC it split into two kingdoms, Israel and Judah.

The term Palestine didn’t exist until the 3rd century BC and is derived from the Greek word for Philistines, which themselves were not Arab and as a distinct group no longer exist. The “Palestinians” of today are Arabs.

Also, the area Jesus lived in was called Judaea during his lifetime. Judaea is the name the Roman Empire gave to their new Provence when they conquered the area less than a century before the birth of Christ and is derived from its original name Judah. The term “Jew” means someone from Judah.

It wasn’t until a century after Christ’s death when following the province of Judea's second insurrection, the Romans renamed the province Syria Palaestina—that is, “Palestinian Syria.” They did so as a punishment, to obliterate the link between the Jews and Judaea.

If you invented a Time Machine and went back to this area during the age of Christ, you’d not find anyone calling themselves a “Palestinian”.
Posted by Gus007
TN
Member since Jul 2018
14159 posts
Posted on 12/25/23 at 7:13 pm to
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I feel for his flock if that’s what he comes away with in studying Christ in scriptures. What a travesty.



They don't study Christ, they replace Christ with themselves. They forgive sins, if you pay them enough.
Posted by TigerGman
Center of the Universe
Member since Sep 2006
13519 posts
Posted on 12/25/23 at 7:15 pm to
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He lived in Egypt as well.



What the hell did Joseph blow all that gold, frankincense and mir on?
Posted by Dissident Aggressor
Member since Aug 2011
5444 posts
Posted on 12/25/23 at 7:16 pm to
he was born in judea…
Posted by PsychTiger
Member since Jul 2004
107260 posts
Posted on 12/25/23 at 7:22 pm to
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What childishness this conversation is.


First day on the OT Lounge?
Posted by PsychTiger
Member since Jul 2004
107260 posts
Posted on 12/25/23 at 7:23 pm to
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If only Israel would lay down their arms, there’d be so much fricking peace in that area.


Well, at least after every single Jew was killed.
Posted by chRxis
None of your fricking business
Member since Feb 2008
26714 posts
Posted on 12/25/23 at 7:25 pm to
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Jesus is God in the flesh.

possibly... however, the historical Jesus of Nazareth is what is really being discussed...

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Focusing on Christ’s ethnicity instead of who He actually is as God serves absolutely no purpose whatsoever than to play to our racial and ethnic obsessed society that puts more importance on the color of the wrapping paper than the actual gift inside.

again, you are very, very much overthinking this and making it way more than it really needs to be...
but you do you chief... Merry Christmas, regardless...
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