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re: Cashier at store told me one guy has spent $4000 on Powerball

Posted on 1/12/16 at 8:28 pm to
Posted by CaptainJ47
Gonzales
Member since Nov 2007
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Posted on 1/12/16 at 8:28 pm to
Additionally the odds are that people win something 1:24.5 or something like that. So he hedges his bet a bit by likely hitting something. I would estimate a return of $6 per hit. At 80 hits approximately that is $480 back. So now to get to 1:146000 it likely costs him in the neighborhood of $3500.
Posted by slackster
Houston
Member since Mar 2009
84643 posts
Posted on 1/12/16 at 8:33 pm to
quote:

M is 1000
MM is 1000000
carry on



In some circles, sure, but a capital M is the prefix 'mega' which is widely used for million and perfectly acceptable.
Posted by cgrand
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Member since Oct 2009
38655 posts
Posted on 1/12/16 at 8:38 pm to
M is the standard abbreviation for 1000 count of any item
#/M means per thousand
again, carry on
the math in this thread is amusing
Posted by BeauxPete
Member since Aug 2011
202 posts
Posted on 1/12/16 at 8:42 pm to
Had a customer spend $6500 Saturday and plans on doing the same tomorrow. Won a little over 1k. When you are already worth millions what's 6500 bucks???
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Posted by slackster
Houston
Member since Mar 2009
84643 posts
Posted on 1/12/16 at 9:26 pm to
quote:

M is the standard abbreviation for 1000 count of any item
#/M means per thousand
again, carry on
the math in this thread is amusing


Don't be obtuse. M has been widely adopted to mean a million as it is the metric abbreviation for mega.

You can find million dollar figures quoted as $---M in publications across the world, including the New York Times, Washington Post, and other traditional print papers..
Posted by buckeye_vol
Member since Jul 2014
35236 posts
Posted on 1/12/16 at 10:06 pm to
quote:

Pray tell?
I've learned today that a lot of people don't understand probability whatsoever.

I even got into a debate with my wife about it tonight.

Recently my sister-in-law found out she was having twins, and her husband, an engineer, said, "there is a 2/3 chance of having a boy because there are three scenarios." I tried to explain that it's actually 3/4 (assuming 50/50 for each child), and he still looked unconvinced.

In other words, even quantitatively inclined individuals have trouble with the logic of probability.
Posted by Spock's Eyebrow
Member since May 2012
12300 posts
Posted on 1/12/16 at 10:52 pm to
quote:

Recently my sister-in-law found out she was having twins, and her husband, an engineer, said, "there is a 2/3 chance of having a boy because there are three scenarios." I tried to explain that it's actually 3/4 (assuming 50/50 for each child), and he still looked unconvinced.


Telling when order matters and when it doesn't can be subtle, though it really isn't here. An engineer ought to have been exposed to truth tables, which is the way to think about the problem. I'd be interested to hear how the 288'ers in this thread think about the lottery problem.
Posted by tiggerthetooth
Big Momma's House
Member since Oct 2010
61117 posts
Posted on 1/12/16 at 10:53 pm to
There's definitely a fine line between genius and insanity.
Posted by tiggerthetooth
Big Momma's House
Member since Oct 2010
61117 posts
Posted on 1/12/16 at 10:56 pm to
quote:

Recently my sister-in-law found out she was having twins, and her husband, an engineer, said, "there is a 2/3 chance of having a boy because there are three scenarios." I tried to explain that it's actually 3/4 (assuming 50/50 for each child), and he still looked unconvinced.


Identical boys
Identical girls
Fraternal Boys
Fraternal Girls
Fraternal girl/boy
Identical boy/girl

4/6 = 2/3
Posted by tigerclaw10
My house
Member since Jun 2010
4139 posts
Posted on 1/13/16 at 12:37 am to
Whether they are identical has no bearing on gender...
Posted by slackster
Houston
Member since Mar 2009
84643 posts
Posted on 1/13/16 at 12:46 am to
quote:

I've learned today that a lot of people don't understand probability whatsoever.


I'm genuinely confused as to what the hell has happened in this thread. I don't believe I've posted a single thing that was mathematically incorrect, right?

Posted by slackster
Houston
Member since Mar 2009
84643 posts
Posted on 1/13/16 at 1:02 am to
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In other words, even quantitatively inclined individuals have trouble with the logic of probability.




That is understandable when you consider how many people, even those with PhDs in mathematics, were stumped by the original Monty Hall problem.

Probability is difficult because it often goes against intuition and sometimes even against logic.

The twin deal is a perfect example. Logically you would deduce that there are 3 scenarios - BB, boy and girl, or GG. However, mathematically there are 4 scenarios because you can create an order for the twins. BG and GB are not the same with regard to probability as they are two distinct outcomes.

I think it is often easier in that situation to explain it using BB or GG as your basis - meaning it may be easier to explain that there is a 25% chance of having two girls, so obviously there is a 75% chance of having at least one boy.
Posted by Vandyrone
Nashville, TN
Member since Dec 2012
6954 posts
Posted on 1/13/16 at 5:53 am to
Slackster, there is a distinction in statistics between probability and odds. Not quite OT material but this might help.

Probability vs Odds
Posted by Supermoto Tiger
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2010
9924 posts
Posted on 1/13/16 at 6:22 am to
quote:

Cashier at store told me one guy has spent $4000 on Powerball

I bet that idiot expects to win too!
Posted by MorbidTheClown
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2015
65683 posts
Posted on 1/13/16 at 7:38 am to
i'm trynna win
Posted by tke857
Member since Jan 2012
12195 posts
Posted on 1/13/16 at 7:46 am to
lol what a waste of 4k doesnt the person know that the more you buy doesn't necessarily mean the better odds you have in winning?
Posted by lsuhunt555
Teakwood Village Breh
Member since Nov 2008
38405 posts
Posted on 1/13/16 at 7:47 am to
I spent $4.
Posted by josh336
baton rouge
Member since Jan 2007
77351 posts
Posted on 1/13/16 at 7:49 am to
Each ticket you buy slightly increases your odds
Posted by Cole Beer
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2008
4583 posts
Posted on 1/13/16 at 7:56 am to
I have a rules question: say you have just three of the winning numbers, they have to be all in a row right? In order to win a prize?
Posted by TheIndulger
Member since Sep 2011
19239 posts
Posted on 1/13/16 at 7:57 am to
No, if that was the case, no one would ever win
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