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re: Cardiac Deaths are more Frequent
Posted on 10/20/22 at 11:24 am to Sneauxghost
Posted on 10/20/22 at 11:24 am to Sneauxghost
quote:What are the blind not seeing?
Do you need a 100% death rate to see what is happening? Is 50%, 40% 30%?? What number would make the blind see?
Cardiac deaths were on the rise before the vaccine was rolled out, so what does that mean to you? Vaccine's fault still?
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Posted on 10/20/22 at 11:24 am to S1C EM
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I've got nearly $1.5mil in life insurance for the better part of the next 30 years (I'm 42). If I die, my family is SET.
If you die tomorrow I hope your wife has a job bc $1.5m ain’t gonna last that long
Posted on 10/20/22 at 11:25 am to LNCHBOX
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Anyone that questions your stupidity is a dem
You're reaching a long way with that post. Discussing/debating isn't your strong suit. There's a guy in our office that argues like you. Everyone makes fun of him. He's actually teared up a couple of times.
This post was edited on 10/20/22 at 11:25 am
Posted on 10/20/22 at 11:25 am to BugAC
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Keep em coming. Unlike most, i'm capable of unabashedly calling out the stupidity of the average leftist no matter how many "mean words" you throw at me.
But you are completely devoid of objectivity, something frequently required to make sound decisions and draw reasonable conclusions.
Posted on 10/20/22 at 11:25 am to OGtigerfan87
quote:That's a bingo, but that doesn't stop posters from arguing with no one.
OT lefties is pretty much a nonexistent group. Almost everybody here voted for trump 2x. Almost no one here supported any kind of mandate for masks or vaccines.
quote:Spiderman pointing meme.
You are as bad as any left wing extremists with you crap
Posted on 10/20/22 at 11:26 am to i am dan
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You're reaching a long way with that post.
Posted on 10/20/22 at 11:26 am to BugAC
quote:Well, the democrats are pushing the vaccine that the Republicans gave us and told everyone to take, so now what?
Yes it does.
This post was edited on 10/20/22 at 11:27 am
Posted on 10/20/22 at 11:26 am to S1C EM
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But you are completely devoid of objectivity, something frequently required to make sound decisions and draw reasonable conclusions.
Is anyone objective anymore when it comes to politics? Doubtful.
Posted on 10/20/22 at 11:27 am to deathvalleytiger10
quote:How else could you take it?
I should take your response of "there are risks with every vaccine" to indicate that you agree that the vaccine or a combination of the vaccine and covid could be causing some of these deaths?
And you didn't answer my question: do we need to talk about risk assessment?
Posted on 10/20/22 at 11:27 am to i am dan
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Average age for heart attack for men is 64 and for women it's 70. So yeah, it's pretty uncommon for a mid 40s person to have a heart attack.
Angioplasty helps prevent people from having a heart attack until they get older...the technology is amazing now as compared to 30-40 years ago in diagnosing and performing the procedure. But I am not shocked to hear someone in their 40's had a heart attack or has been diagnosed with heart problems.
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I agree, the media can put thoughts in our head or drive a certain narrative they want you to hang on to. Statistics can be doctored, shite can be covered up and ignored, some people just flat out lie about shite.
I am saying before the internet ppl rarely heard about athletes falling out in other parts of the country. The stories are immediate now. Social media, 24hr news etc
Posted on 10/20/22 at 11:28 am to shel311
quote:I posted for almost two years non stop bashing all covid mandates and restrictions. I constantly started threads using hospital data to show the restrictions were bullshite
That's a bingo, but that doesn't stop posters from arguing with no one.
Once I said the vaccine is safe, and used data, I became a Karen who wanted full lockdowns to certain people, the same people who championed the data I was posting earlier. It’s pathetic
This post was edited on 10/20/22 at 11:29 am
Posted on 10/20/22 at 11:29 am to deathvalleytiger10
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Would you agree, like any other theory, that we should be researching the increases in deaths from all causes to see if we can determine commonality, correlation, and cause? Or, like so many, do we dismiss any thought that the vaccine could be contributory?
I would. But you can't go into it with confirmation bias, ready to pounce on and put on blast the first thing that might support your theory. I don't think you dismiss anything, but you also have to be willing to accept what the data tells you. If it points to the vaccine, so be it. If it points to covid being more serious than many want to believe, so be it. If it points to BOTH (and I think it would), so be it.
Posted on 10/20/22 at 11:31 am to dirty bastard
Not sure about the impact of the vaccine on the heart but there’s evidence of the impact of Covid on the heart.
Posted on 10/20/22 at 11:34 am to tgrbaitn08
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If you die tomorrow I hope your wife has a job bc $1.5m ain’t gonna last that long
Oh, you poor sap. If she were into Lambos and Bentleys, perhaps. She's pretty frugal and knows the plan when I'm gone. Between that and two properties worth north of $400,000-$500,000 each that would belong solely to her, she'll be fine.
And no, she wouldn't quit working her job. In healthcare.
Posted on 10/20/22 at 11:34 am to S1C EM
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But you can't go into it with confirmation bias
Exactly. And it is being done on both sides.
It appears to me though, that our medical establishment is quite unwilling to question what it originally believed.
Posted on 10/20/22 at 11:36 am to i am dan
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Is anyone objective anymore when it comes to politics? Doubtful.
I tend to be. But I don't identify myself as a Republican or Dem. I'm conservative, but I don't latch onto party-driven groupthink.
Posted on 10/20/22 at 11:38 am to deathvalleytiger10
Awesome this many people are interested in this topic. Now, hopefully people will be paying attention to this. 
Posted on 10/20/22 at 11:38 am to i am dan
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Sorry you missed my point. I was making an argument to not believe everything coming out of this administration, because they are full of shite.
Do you realize that immediately saying everything the gov says is wrong is the flip side of the coin that take everything said by the gov is infallible? Your macho man “I don’t believe anything the gov says” is not impressive
Posted on 10/20/22 at 11:44 am to Korkstand
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do we need to talk about risk assessment?
Of course. I have advocated for that since day one.
The data was clear early on who was at risk for severe covid. I believe the reported benefits of the vaccine for those in this higher risk pool out weighed any risks we knew at the time and thus they should receive the vaccine.
I also believe there are very large segments of the population in which the risk of severe covid was very, very small and the vaccine was not needed.
So, yes, absolutely, risk assessment is warranted for all medical treatments.
Posted on 10/20/22 at 11:45 am to thejuiceisloose
The shot has shown to cause or contribute to paracarditis and myocarditis which can lead to problems with the heart especially in people with inflammation and unknown heart problems.
The amount of people that want to ignore it astounds me.
My favorite is some "experts" are saying "oh its not from the shot, you have heart problems from being so stressed about the shot".
This needs to stop being political. It's ridiculous. Both "sides" need to have an open head and not completely shite on each other.
The amount of people that want to ignore it astounds me.
My favorite is some "experts" are saying "oh its not from the shot, you have heart problems from being so stressed about the shot".
This needs to stop being political. It's ridiculous. Both "sides" need to have an open head and not completely shite on each other.
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