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re: Car Horsepower is Wild

Posted on 8/16/22 at 1:25 pm to
Posted by BuckyCheese
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Posted on 8/16/22 at 1:25 pm to
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My wife's Traverse 3LT kid hauler has 305hp...



My 75 year old mother's Blazer RS has 308hp.

Doubt it's ever been over 1/2 throttle.
Posted by jnethe1
Pearland
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Posted on 8/16/22 at 1:29 pm to
For electric the bragging rights will go to range. Because f waiting hours to recharge, and batteries that do not last.
Posted by EA6B
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Posted on 8/16/22 at 1:37 pm to
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Posted by Pechon
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Posted on 8/16/22 at 1:39 pm to
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Volvo S60 Recharge is pulling 400+ HP on a 4 cylinder.


The Lancia Delta S4 group B rally car had a 1.7l 4 cylinder that could output 500 horsepower. With further tuning it could go as high as 1000 HP. It had a supercharger and turbocharger plus it had a body and frame that weighed less than a ton.

Sadly as a result, driver Henri Toivonen lost control of his Delta S4 in 1986 killing him and his co-driver in a fireball that only left the frame of the car.
Posted by EA6B
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Posted on 8/16/22 at 1:39 pm to
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For electric the bragging rights will go to range. Because f waiting hours to recharge, and batteries that do not last.


And for a given battery capacity capacity more horsepower equals less range. You can’t go very far, but you get their quick.
Posted by Pepe Lepew
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Posted on 8/16/22 at 1:46 pm to
Posted by GetmorewithLes
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Posted on 8/16/22 at 1:47 pm to
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Industrial electric motors are designed to output their rated 1000 hp 24/7 basically forever! Tesla’s motor does make 1000 hp, but just for a brief few seconds of acceleration, huge design difference…



I might buy that. You couldnt put a 1000 hp industrial motor in the back of a HD pickup truck...
Posted by Redbone
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Posted on 8/16/22 at 2:35 pm to
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You couldnt put a 1000 hp industrial motor in the back of a HD pickup truck...

Physically smaller motors generally get hotter to make the same h.p. as the bigger brothers. Batteries get hotter too. Everything has it's limits.
Posted by cable
Member since Oct 2018
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Posted on 8/16/22 at 2:39 pm to
I could put a super charger in my Tundra and get to 60 in about 4 seconds - for a vehicle that size that crazy to me. Without any mods it already get to 60 in under 8 seconds.
Posted by 24nights
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Posted on 8/16/22 at 7:21 pm to
Let’s do it sometime this fall, I’ll catch you when LSU is playing at home. Give me an email address brother.
Posted by biglego
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Posted on 8/16/22 at 7:31 pm to
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Funny thing is a 255HP Vortec in a late 90's Chevy C/K feels quicker around town than most of these new trucks as you don't have to rev it to get the power. Torque right off idle.


Came here to say this. I wonder if they are measuring hp differently now? My 381 hp Tundra feels no faster than my 255hp 1997 Tahoe. My buddy’s 1998 Camaro with 305hp felt way more powerful than a 300hp car today.
Posted by billjamin
Houston
Member since Jun 2019
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Posted on 8/16/22 at 7:47 pm to
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331 mph
Fake. I think it went 295 in a retest.
Posted by BuckyCheese
Member since Jan 2015
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Posted on 8/16/22 at 7:51 pm to
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Came here to say this. I wonder if they are measuring hp differently now? My 381 hp Tundra feels no faster than my 255hp 1997 Tahoe. My buddy’s 1998 Camaro with 305hp felt way more powerful than a 300hp car today.


It's the low end torque. New vehicles generally don't have it. It was very noticeable, and a number of people complained, when GM went with the LS 5.3 in the Silverado versus the previous small block 5.7. The LS put out more horsepower but didn't have the low rpm torque of the older engine. Going from memory but peak torque is around 4000 RPM with the 5.3 while the older 5.7 was closer to 2500. Very noticeable around town and most people don't ram rod the hell out of their trucks so the old engine felt more powerful. If you wound them out the 5.3 put out more power but was over 5k rpm.

I'm sure if you floor it and let it wind out the 381HP of your newer truck would then be noticed. Most people don't drive their truck like that though.

Your buddy's 305hp Camaro has a 5.7 V8 which has way more torque than a new 300HP 3.6 V6. Same idea. Without a turbo a smaller engine generally will not put out the torque of a big engine. They make the HP by revving higher. HP is calculated with RPM being a factor.
This post was edited on 8/16/22 at 7:59 pm
Posted by billjamin
Houston
Member since Jun 2019
12511 posts
Posted on 8/16/22 at 7:53 pm to
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HP is calculated with RPM being a factor.
Thats why it's always 1:1 at 5252 rpms.
Posted by HubbaBubba
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Member since Oct 2010
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Posted on 8/16/22 at 7:58 pm to
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My vehicle has over 400 hp and its pretty slow.
It's what?
Posted by DownshiftAndFloorIt
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Member since Jan 2011
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Posted on 8/16/22 at 8:04 pm to
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It's the low end torque


Not exactly. It's torque management. Your modern engine is capable of so much more than it will allow you to do. It limits engine performance to protect the driveline and meet emissions requirements.

Modern diesels rated at over 1000 ft-lbs of torque are a great example. While the engine CAN make it at 1400rpm, it's only going to actually make it under a very specific set of conditions.
Posted by BuckyCheese
Member since Jan 2015
49376 posts
Posted on 8/16/22 at 8:07 pm to
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Not exactly. It's torque management.


No. As I described it, it is exactly a lack of low end torque.

You're not into torque management driving around town like a normal person.

The facts are a 5.3 LS puts it's power out at a much higher RPM than a 255HP 5.7 Vortec from the late 90's.

eta-I know exactly what torque management does. It prevented me from pulling a friend out of the ditch with my Avalanche even in low range. Foot on the floor and it just sat there against the converter. Not a bit of wheelslip.

And it wouldn't do a burnout. My 2000 Silverado would burn the tires off.
This post was edited on 8/16/22 at 8:12 pm
Posted by DownshiftAndFloorIt
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Posted on 8/16/22 at 8:20 pm to
The old trucks were much much lighter than new ones are, and didnt have electronic throttles that manage power.

Look up the torque curve from a 1995 5.7 Chevy and the torque curve from a 2020 5.3. The 5.3 can get over 300 ftlbs at about 1500 rpm and the 5.7 barely gets there at all.

The 5.3 has variable valve timing, modern fuel injection, and a 6 or 10 speed transmission. It is capable of putting more to the ground at every speed.

It's just weight and electronics.
Posted by BuckyCheese
Member since Jan 2015
49376 posts
Posted on 8/16/22 at 8:24 pm to
Move those goalposts dude.

I was never talking about a VVT 5.3. Meanwhile you look up a non Vortec 5.7.
This post was edited on 8/16/22 at 8:25 pm
Posted by DownshiftAndFloorIt
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Posted on 8/16/22 at 8:31 pm to
Dudeeeeeeeee

You are not seriously going to argue that engines from the 90's had better torque than engines from the 2000+'s

They were absolute turds compared to any recent generation stuff. I had a 94 and a 98 Z71. Total dog shite poo turds. You have nostalgia bias bad bad.

Driving a 90's Z71 these days feels like you're driving an underpowered go kart compared to anything built in the past 10 years.
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