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re: Cancer breakthroughs

Posted on 2/11/25 at 10:09 pm to
Posted by Wiener
Member since Apr 2019
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Posted on 2/11/25 at 10:09 pm to
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My mother told me over 40 years ago that a cancer cure will never be found because there’s too much money for research. What’s the incentive to cure if you get paid millions to keep researching.

My mama told me that alligators are ornery because they got all them teeth but no toothbrush.
Posted by Jack Ruby
Member since Apr 2014
26537 posts
Posted on 2/11/25 at 10:34 pm to
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Ivermectin will get rid of cancer because cancer is just a parasite.


I mean... He's nor wrong.
Posted by Jake88
Member since Apr 2005
78270 posts
Posted on 2/11/25 at 10:50 pm to
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quote:
Ivermectin will get rid of cancer because cancer is just a parasite.



I mean... He's nor wrong
What?
Posted by CajunPhil
Chimes
Member since Aug 2013
825 posts
Posted on 2/11/25 at 11:09 pm to
Very sorry for you Vernon. It’s almost as devastating to lose a parent unnecessarily early as a child.
Posted by bayoumuscle21
St. George
Member since Jan 2012
5012 posts
Posted on 2/12/25 at 3:04 am to
There are a lot of newer things with positive clinical trials fighting cancer.

Ivermectin
Methylene Blue
Hyperbaric Chambers
Fasting

Interesting one to me is the castor oil stories.
Posted by Horsemeat
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Posted on 2/12/25 at 3:18 am to
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I was curious as to why they can't find cancer in your blood.
I get screened 4x year for cancer now as part of my recovery from testicular cancer - what they essentially are doing is looking for the proteins in blood that is a result of tumor damage. With the type of cancer i had the tumors deposit LDH protein in the blood from eating at organs, in my case it was my right kidney and uterer that was being destroyed four years ago. Now I get the full screen of blood and DNA testing.

Stem cell transplant process is no joke but it saved my life. I was in the hospital for the better part of four months going through it and had an eight month recovery after where I was in isolation away from the world. TD helped me keep my sanity through it.
Posted by No Colors
Sandbar
Member since Sep 2010
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Posted on 2/12/25 at 3:41 am to
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positive clinical trials fighting cancer.

Ivermectin
Methylene Blue
Hyperbaric Chambers
Fasting

quote:

Interesting one to me is the castor oil stories.


So are these clinical trials....or stories?

If they're clinical trials can you send us a link? I don't think I've ever heard of clinical trials on the procedures you described above.
Posted by Bullfrog
Running Through the Wet Grass
Member since Jul 2010
60478 posts
Posted on 2/12/25 at 5:05 am to
If you’re that curious, why don’t you go looking?

This is no time to be lazy and act like everyone is your personal research assistant. A fried chicken doesn’t just fly into your mouth.
Posted by FredBear
Georgia
Member since Aug 2017
16988 posts
Posted on 2/12/25 at 5:16 am to
Lost both my parents to cancer within a two year time span and it was a very unpleasant thing to witness both times. If they could ever stamp it out for good that would be a very positive development
Posted by Howyouluhdat
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Member since Jan 2015
8935 posts
Posted on 2/12/25 at 5:48 am to
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Smells like bs. I posted the profit margins of two of the largest.


Pfizer makes a lot of different drugs. They make the highest profits on oncology drugs. Something like Advil maybe not so much. It’s not hard to understand. Whatever profits they report is all bs anyway. Every single one of them are frauds and have been outed as so
Posted by N2cars
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Member since Feb 2008
38057 posts
Posted on 2/12/25 at 6:31 am to
Because they don't exsist...

Your mother's mailman's cousin's maid doesn’t know a lick about cancer treatments, but they feel compelled to post idiocy on an anonymous message board.

Those here posting rumors, folk remedies, and hearsay should consider themselves blessed that they've never had to deal with cancer on a personal level.

To those that actually want to make a difference and help those in the battle, reach out and I can show you how.








Posted by Jake88
Member since Apr 2005
78270 posts
Posted on 2/12/25 at 6:57 am to
I replied to someone posting about profit margins for the companies not a cherry picked med. The source you cited is a leftist political hack site. It's the equivalent of using Media Matters as a source.

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Whatever profits they report is all bs anyway
Oh. I see. Your mind is made up.
This post was edited on 2/12/25 at 6:58 am
Posted by Chucktown_Badger
The banks of the Ashley River
Member since May 2013
35897 posts
Posted on 2/12/25 at 8:24 am to
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They’ve had millions upon millions of dollars for research over the last couple decades. That’s not the problem. They have had great results with multiple other alternative treatments yet they keep pumping people with poison that kills all your healthy cells. The revenue made off cancer treatments is up over $200 Billion in the last decade I believe and Big pharma is operating at a 90% profit margin. Let that sink in but yea they care about you


There's a lot of dumb people and statements in this thread, but you're separating from the herd.
Posted by Chucktown_Badger
The banks of the Ashley River
Member since May 2013
35897 posts
Posted on 2/12/25 at 8:32 am to
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Profit from cancer drugs

A study found that Big Pharma makes up to 90% profit on expensive cancer treatments. A 2010-2019 study found that the proportion of total drug revenue from cancer drugs increased from 14% in 2010 to 25% in 2019.


You're clearly out of your depth so I'm not even sure why I'm responding...but anyway.

You said "Pharma profits" (all of them) are "up 90%"

The quote you provided says they "make up to 90% profit" on "expensive cancer treatments".

So that stat only references the "expensive" ones, only those that have received approval, does not factor in the cost of the clinical trial program for the approved drug (which is in the billions of dollars), and does not factor in other capital outlays and losses for products and trials that failed prior to approval. It's a meaningless stat intended for people like you who have no clue what they're talking about.

For reference, it usually takes Pharma companies 12-15 years to break even overall on a newly approved drug...which is why patents exist.
This post was edited on 2/12/25 at 8:33 am
Posted by Chucktown_Badger
The banks of the Ashley River
Member since May 2013
35897 posts
Posted on 2/12/25 at 8:39 am to
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What’s the incentive to cure if you get paid millions to keep researching.


Because a viable new drug candidate can make you billions instead of millions. There are dozens of clinical stage Pharma companies working to develop one single molecule, all with the goal of getting acquired by big Pharma right around phase 1, because those companies have the deep pockets and resources to get them to and through phase 3 and commercialized. Though many fail even in phase 3 at the last minute, so that can be ~$2B gone (not counting the cost of the acquisition.)
Posted by Howyouluhdat
On Fleek St
Member since Jan 2015
8935 posts
Posted on 2/12/25 at 8:39 am to
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I replied to someone posting about profit margins for the companies not a cherry picked med. The source you cited is a leftist political hack site. It's the equivalent of using Media Matters as a source.



How are they cherry picked when this whole thread is on cancer. Oncology drugs are expensive as frick for no reason at all. Right and I posted facts that you don’t agree with which is not my problem. Facts don’t lie. They literally did a decade study.

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For some of their most popular drugs, Johnson & Johnson, Merck, and Bristol Myers Squibb made more money in the U.S. than the rest of the world combined.


LINK

LINK





Posted by Chucktown_Badger
The banks of the Ashley River
Member since May 2013
35897 posts
Posted on 2/12/25 at 8:43 am to
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If you’re that curious, why don’t you go looking?

This is no time to be lazy and act like everyone is your personal research assistant. A fried chicken doesn’t just fly into your mouth.


The burden of proof is on the one making the dumb statement. Without it I've already dismissed it as nonsense.
Posted by Chucktown_Badger
The banks of the Ashley River
Member since May 2013
35897 posts
Posted on 2/12/25 at 8:46 am to
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For some of their most popular drugs, Johnson & Johnson, Merck, and Bristol Myers Squibb made more money in the U.S. than the rest of the world combined.


So you're clearly a moron, but just wanted to point out here that you're now confusing two claims. The last you were attempting to make was on profit margins, this is about the countries where the most revenue is made. And yes, it almost always is highest in the US, for a whole host of reasons.

You should look up "Dunning–Kruger effect".
This post was edited on 2/12/25 at 8:47 am
Posted by SuperSaint
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Posted on 2/12/25 at 8:49 am to
Freddy >>> Dunning
Posted by TSmith
New Orleans, La.
Member since Jan 2004
2255 posts
Posted on 2/12/25 at 8:51 am to
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I get screened 4x year for cancer now as part of my recovery from testicular cancer - what they essentially are doing is looking for the proteins in blood that is a result of tumor damage.

Interesting this got brought up. 4 months before my kidney cancer diagnosis, I was screened by the Galleri blood test for cancer. They say it can detect over 50 cancers, including kidney cancer. It unfortunately missed mine. Ultimately was detected by CT for something totally unrelated.

There's no substitute for imagery for tumor cancers. Everyone should try to get scanned - a CT, MRI, even ultrasound... something. I wish it were covered by insurance, say, every 5 years or something. Would save many lives.
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