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re: Can you bench your weight?
Posted on 8/29/22 at 10:50 am to Penrod
Posted on 8/29/22 at 10:50 am to Penrod
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I sometimes do 4 or 5 reps with 80 pound dumbbells, and I weigh 175. But I rarely bench with a barbell. I could get there in about three weeks, though.
Similar camp in that I rarely use a bar. I rep 75lb dumbbells 6-8 times. I would assume I can bench my weight but haven't ever tried.
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Posted on 8/29/22 at 10:59 am to BabyTac
quote:<----Yup, exactly one rep at age 60.9 just to prove to myself that I could.
Can you bench your weight?
I was uncertain because I haven't benched anything in 20+ years.
Posted on 8/29/22 at 11:01 am to Mingo Was His NameO
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Ehh, I'll disagree and I do all three. There's overload that is really hard to create with med balls or sandbags due to size.
no its not, you are using cleans as a development of rate of speed on the strength curve not for overall force
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That's an excuse. These people should he getting more mobile, not excluding cleans due to mobility.
1st- no it isnt
2nd the purpose of the clean is for learning to be more powerful, if you can achieve that safer through other methods and keep the athlete doing other things instead of just mobility work, than you do that.
like most, you forget in sports the goal is about getting better at the sport, not abotu being the best at exercise. plenty of other methods besides the power clean to achieve that. plenty and much safer.
Posted on 8/29/22 at 11:04 am to lsu777
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like most, you forget in sports the goal is about getting better at the sport
No I don't
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plenty of other methods besides the power clean to achieve that.
I would say that's heavily dependent on the sport. Golf or tennis, sure. Football, probably not
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much safer.
That depends. Heavy sandbags can be incredibly unsafe
Posted on 8/29/22 at 11:05 am to lsu777
Can we just circle back
Mingo said it’s extrmely difficult to bench 1.6x one’s weight unless they specifically training for it and are elite
Then he proceeds to say he benches over 1.6x his weight while only doing bench once a week
Beautiful
Mingo said it’s extrmely difficult to bench 1.6x one’s weight unless they specifically training for it and are elite
Then he proceeds to say he benches over 1.6x his weight while only doing bench once a week
Beautiful
This post was edited on 8/29/22 at 11:06 am
Posted on 8/29/22 at 11:07 am to lsupride87
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Mingo said it’s extrmely difficult to bench 1.6x one’s weight unless they specifically triangle for it and are elite
No I didn't, I said it's intermediate, very close to advanced. No where near elite.
I only barbell bench once a week, but I do a shite ton of pushups, do some chest accessory with dbs, etc.
And I can't do 1.6 "for reps" like you said.
Posted on 8/29/22 at 11:08 am to Mingo Was His NameO
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That depends. Heavy sandbags can be incredibly unsafe
you are not trying to do heavy, this is about rate of velocity, using throwing sandbags. not heavy heavy bags.
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Football, probably not
well many of the best coaches in america are starting to move away from them, reason for that.
not that they are bad, just hard to teach to do correctly with triple extension when you can create that easier through other methods and without the time it takes to teach it or wait on them to become mobile enough.
Posted on 8/29/22 at 11:09 am to BabyTac
I’m 194 pounds so obviously yes
Posted on 8/29/22 at 11:12 am to lsu777
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or wait on them to become mobile enough.
I hate this excuse. And mobility is a great injury preventer outside of just being able to get in lifting positions.
I don't think most of these guys need to clean, because they're ridiculous athletes and doing any kind of training is going to be enough. But the clean is still an awesome thing to do.
And, just my opinion, there's a psychological impact to lifting, whether it be sandbag, barbell, anything. Weight on a bar is an easily measurable and definable metric that people can understand.
Posted on 8/29/22 at 11:12 am to lsupride87
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Can we just circle back
Mingo said it’s extrmely difficult to bench 1.6x one’s weight unless they specifically training for it and are elite
Then he proceeds to say he benches over 1.6x his weight while only doing bench once a week
well technically he is correct. according to most of the charts most people would be cat 4 or above which is advanced to elite at 1.5x bodyweight.
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Posted on 8/29/22 at 11:14 am to lsu777
My point is he won’t believe an sec athlete who trains with actual trainers and everything that entails can do 1.6 x their body weight, but then spouts off about how he can do it only lifting once a week at that lift
I beleive Mingo can lift that amount, but I also believe any athletic male who trains hard can as well.
I beleive Mingo can lift that amount, but I also believe any athletic male who trains hard can as well.
This post was edited on 8/29/22 at 11:16 am
Posted on 8/29/22 at 11:15 am to lsupride87
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My point is he won’t believe an sec athlete
A tennis player
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can do 1.6 x their body weight
For reps, don't crawfish now
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then spouts off about how he can do it only lifting once a week at that lift
For years
Posted on 8/29/22 at 11:16 am to Mingo Was His NameO
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I hate this excuse. And mobility is a great injury preventer outside of just being able to get in lifting positions.
while i agree, for sports players it is an issue. especially for overhead sports like i was talking about before, but even in football for lineman.
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And, just my opinion, there's a psychological impact to lifting, whether it be sandbag, barbell, anything. Weight on a bar is an easily measurable and definable metric that people can understand.
now most places that do the med ball training have radar guns that track the speed or vbt sensors that allow it to read.
and you can use any of the lifts with vbt sensor to compensatory acceleration.
but also the best coaches are taking a 1 on 1 aproach and developing a force velocity profile and attacking the weakness for the best bang for the buck when it comes to performance.
Posted on 8/29/22 at 11:16 am to IT_Dawg
I'm 6'2 lol, but that spare tire is showing up like never before
Posted on 8/29/22 at 11:16 am to Mingo Was His NameO
quote:I never once said he could rep 305. Not once…
For reps, don't crawfish now
I said a 200 lb muscular ripped man can rep 300
And an sec tennis player is 10x the athlete you are. With training they will be stronger, faster, than you
This post was edited on 8/29/22 at 11:19 am
Posted on 8/29/22 at 11:18 am to BabyTac
I am only 165, so yes
Posted on 8/29/22 at 11:18 am to lsupride87
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I said a 200 lb muscular ripped man can rep 300
And you are wrong, 99% of the time
Posted on 8/29/22 at 11:19 am to lsupride87
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My point is he won’t believe an sec athlete who trains with actual trainers and everything that entails can do 1.6 x their body weight, but then spouts off about how he can do it only lifting once a week at that lift
I beleive Mingo can lift that amount, but I also believe any athletic male who trains hard can as well.
dunno who you are talking about but to be really good at tennis or any rotational sport and good enough to play at a high level like SEC means you have plenty of type IIx muscle fibers and lots of type ii overall so no doubt that is absolutely doable, even for reps. but gonan take a lot of training, consistency in diet and sleep to do it.
Posted on 8/29/22 at 11:27 am to lsu777
quote:Agreed 100%
but to be really good at tennis or any rotational sport and good enough to play at a high level like SEC means you have plenty of type IIx muscle fibers and lots of type ii overall so no doubt that is absolutely doable, even for reps. but gonan take a lot of training, consistency in diet and sleep to do it.
Also about 2 months ago I started dogg crapp at your suggestion. By far the most “fun” I’ve had in a gym in a long time. It’s brutal but man it’s addicting beating the numbers
Posted on 8/29/22 at 11:36 am to lsupride87
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Agreed 100%
Also about 2 months ago I started dogg crapp at your suggestion. By far the most “fun” I’ve had in a gym in a long time. It’s brutal but man it’s addicting beating the numbers
yes sir....remember though to make sure you take those 2 week cruises every 2 months or so. the fatigue adds up overtime.
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