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re: Can you be Catholic without agreeing with the pope?
Posted on 11/19/24 at 2:27 pm to Hawgnsincebirth55
Posted on 11/19/24 at 2:27 pm to Hawgnsincebirth55
My rule is to always question authority, especially if its the authority of the thing you believe in the most.
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Posted on 11/19/24 at 2:27 pm to Mid Iowa Tiger
I’m not Catholic but I’m trying to determine what’s the difference between a Catholic who disagrees with the pope and his teachings and a Protestant. I just used the homosexual argument because I know lots of Catholics take offense with the current popes stance on it.
Posted on 11/19/24 at 2:28 pm to Hawgnsincebirth55
The pope doesn’t even agree with the pope.
Posted on 11/19/24 at 2:29 pm to Hawgnsincebirth55
orthodoxy, its the true church of Jesus.
Posted on 11/19/24 at 2:29 pm to Hawgnsincebirth55
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Let’s say you are a devout Catholic but don’t agree with the popes beliefs on homosexuality.
Forget Catholic, you can't even be a Christian if you agree with the gays.
Posted on 11/19/24 at 2:31 pm to Hawgnsincebirth55
Faith lies with God and Jesus, not with some old man who covers up sex scandals
Posted on 11/19/24 at 2:33 pm to evil cockroach
quote:wait he said that?
Pope's teaching: Muslims share in our salvation. (If you disagree, not good, you're denying church teaching)
Posted on 11/19/24 at 2:35 pm to Hawgnsincebirth55
Be a man . Think for yourself
Posted on 11/19/24 at 2:37 pm to Hawgnsincebirth55
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Would you still be a Catholic if you denounce the pope and stop following him?
I often disagree with people. I seldom denounce them. Perhaps you could just be less zealous.
Posted on 11/19/24 at 2:40 pm to Hawgnsincebirth55
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wait he said that?
not specifically - you can clink the link he posted and read what was said (not but the current pope) - basically that there is salvation for those who believe in God.
Posted on 11/19/24 at 2:44 pm to Hawgnsincebirth55
quote:There's a lot more to being a Protestant than disagreeing with the Pope's opinion on one particular issue.
I’m not Catholic but I’m trying to determine what’s the difference between a Catholic who disagrees with the pope and his teachings and a Protestant. I just used the homosexual argument because I know lots of Catholics take offense with the current popes stance on it.
I grew up in the Protestant church but I've recently tried to educate myself on Catholic beliefs. It's given me a new appreciation for how different these two branches of Christianity are, and I've found myself thinking more deeply about what I believe and why.
It's fine for a Catholic to believe that the Pope handled a certain issue poorly, or misspoke, or did something sinful, or even to even disagree with the Pope on issues that aren't dogmatic. Catholics are, however, expected to conform to dogmatic church teachings. For example, you're not supposed to disbelieve church teaching about the perpetual virginity of Mary, or that use of birth control pills is sinful, or that Jesus is both fully human and fully divine, or that we can ask the saints to pray for us.
The bottom line is that Catholics should accept the teachings of the church's magisterium, because (according to the Catholic Church) it is supernaturally protected from error by the Holy Spirit.
Posted on 11/19/24 at 2:45 pm to Hawgnsincebirth55
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I’m not Catholic but I’m trying to determine what’s the difference between a Catholic who disagrees with the pope and his teachings and a Protestant.
It would take a whole lot more than just disagreeing with The Pope on a certain issue to be considered Protestant. You would have to reject a majority of the Catechism to fall into the Protestant category.
The Church has had terrible Popes in the past and will most likely have another one in the future. It's because they are human and like all of us, fall very short of perfection, even The Pope.
What Catholics should do is pray that God imparts wisdom on The Pope and gives him clarity of thought on subjects we believe he is incorrect about.
Posted on 11/19/24 at 2:51 pm to Hawgnsincebirth55
Listen man, just follow Jesus. Don't worry about agreeing with the pope. He'll have to give an account before God like the rest of us. The pope won't save you from hell, only Jesus has the power to do that.
Posted on 11/19/24 at 2:57 pm to Gumbaw
quote:this is what Protestants believe but not Catholics right? Catholics believe you have to pray to saints or something
The pope won't save you from hell, only Jesus has the power to do that.
Posted on 11/19/24 at 3:00 pm to Hawgnsincebirth55
quote:Catholics pray for the saints to intercede or pray for us on our behalf. Same way you'd ask a friend to pray for you.
Catholics believe you have to pray to saints or something
Posted on 11/19/24 at 3:01 pm to BayouBengal51
quote:I ask this as an outsider in terms of Catholicism, but genuinely ask if the Papacy is pushing and openly speaking as if things admonished by Christ's teachings are ok, at what point does it become heresy? Wasn't one of the catalyst for the reformation in part the heresy of church leaders and the belief that biblically believers were called to remove themselves from destructive heresies?
It would take a whole lot more than just disagreeing with The Pope on a certain issue to be considered Protestant.
Genuine question, like I said I am not Catholic and stuff like this genuinely peaks my curiosity.
Posted on 11/19/24 at 3:02 pm to BayouBengal51
quote:I mean most of the differences between Catholics and Protestants originally was that the pope is not a divine being any closer to god than the rest of us. I’ve been on a Protestant reformation history kick lately, and hearing about the issues Martin Luther had reminds me of some of the complaints I hear from from modern day Catholics, they just say they’re Catholics who don’t follow the pope. But they claim to still be Catholics. Like, how does that even work?
You would have to reject a majority of the Catechism to fall into the Protestant category.
Posted on 11/19/24 at 3:03 pm to AwesomeSauce
quote:this is what I’m asking, you just stated it way better than I could.
I ask this as an outsider in terms of Catholicism, but genuinely ask if the Papacy is pushing and openly speaking as if things admonished by Christ's teachings are ok, at what point does it become heresy? Wasn't one of the catalyst for the reformation in part the heresy of church leaders and the belief that biblically believers were called to remove themselves from destructive heresies? Genuine question, like I said I am not Catholic and stuff like this genuinely peaks my curiosity.
Posted on 11/19/24 at 3:05 pm to Hawgnsincebirth55
A lot of Catholics disagree with the Pope's views on blessing same sex couples.
Posted on 11/19/24 at 3:07 pm to Hawgnsincebirth55
Good question.
I grew up catholic but disagree with many of their teachings and beliefs.
Actually Catholicism has pushed me away from religion, in general, even though I believe in God.
I grew up catholic but disagree with many of their teachings and beliefs.
Actually Catholicism has pushed me away from religion, in general, even though I believe in God.
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