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Can you be Catholic without agreeing with the pope?
Posted on 11/19/24 at 2:15 pm
Posted on 11/19/24 at 2:15 pm
Let’s say you are a devout Catholic but don’t agree with the popes beliefs on homosexuality. Would you still be a Catholic if you denounce the pope and stop following him?
ETA: I’m not Catholic, I’m just trying to find out what the difference is between a Catholic who disagrees with the pope and his doctrine or those of the cardinals and bishops below him, and a Protestant. Say Lutheran or Calvinism.
ETA: I’m not Catholic, I’m just trying to find out what the difference is between a Catholic who disagrees with the pope and his doctrine or those of the cardinals and bishops below him, and a Protestant. Say Lutheran or Calvinism.
This post was edited on 11/19/24 at 2:37 pm
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Posted on 11/19/24 at 2:18 pm to Hawgnsincebirth55
The pope is a man. Some are more devout and religious than others.
This one is secular and woke. I don't follow the leftist pope when he talks about global warming or throwing open our borders to all comers.
This one is secular and woke. I don't follow the leftist pope when he talks about global warming or throwing open our borders to all comers.
Posted on 11/19/24 at 2:18 pm to Hawgnsincebirth55
Wouldn’t that be protesting?
Wouldn’t that make you a Protestant?
Wouldn’t that make you a Protestant?
Posted on 11/19/24 at 2:19 pm to Grassy1
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Wouldn’t that be protesting?
Wouldn’t that make you a Protestant?
Posted on 11/19/24 at 2:20 pm to Grassy1
That’s what I would think too
Posted on 11/19/24 at 2:21 pm to Hawgnsincebirth55
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don’t agree with the popes beliefs on homosexuality
You in the closet?
Posted on 11/19/24 at 2:21 pm to Hawgnsincebirth55
The men that get appointed to lead the church don't make the church. I am a Catholic and don't believe a lot of the shite they tell us. Plus the doctrines have changed throughout my life. Some I believe, some I don't. Cafeteria Catholic? I don't care. I'm Catholic and I'll never not be Catholic.
Posted on 11/19/24 at 2:22 pm to Hawgnsincebirth55
100% yea.
He is just a man.
He is just a man.
This post was edited on 11/19/24 at 2:23 pm
Posted on 11/19/24 at 2:22 pm to Hawgnsincebirth55
It depends.
The Pope’s infallible teachings have been extremely rarely used.
Your example of homosexuality is a non-negotiable in the church, not because of the Pope’s teachings but Jesus’. So is being a womanizing serial frick boy.
Jesus’ teachings on sex is actually pretty clear.
The Pope’s infallible teachings have been extremely rarely used.
Your example of homosexuality is a non-negotiable in the church, not because of the Pope’s teachings but Jesus’. So is being a womanizing serial frick boy.
Jesus’ teachings on sex is actually pretty clear.
Posted on 11/19/24 at 2:23 pm to Hawgnsincebirth55
quote:
Let’s say you are a devout Catholic but don’t agree with the popes beliefs on homosexuality. Would you still be a Catholic if you denounce the pope and stop following him?
I don't think it works like that. Fill in the blank.
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but don’t agree with the popes beliefs on infidelity.
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but don’t agree with the popes beliefs on murder
Posted on 11/19/24 at 2:23 pm to Hawgnsincebirth55
This is why people created Protestantism. People were tired of having to follow mans opinions for their religion.
Posted on 11/19/24 at 2:23 pm to Hawgnsincebirth55
quote:
Can you be Catholic without agreeing with the pope?
Yes
Posted on 11/19/24 at 2:24 pm to Hawgnsincebirth55
Yes. The pope is not God.
Posted on 11/19/24 at 2:24 pm to SwampGar
catholics probably need their own pope in the states
he is so far removed from the realities of catholicism in the USA and he's out of touch with the issues that have impacted the Catholic church here
maybe none of these scandals reached the level they did had you had better leadership closer to your congregations and not a world away
he is so far removed from the realities of catholicism in the USA and he's out of touch with the issues that have impacted the Catholic church here
maybe none of these scandals reached the level they did had you had better leadership closer to your congregations and not a world away
Posted on 11/19/24 at 2:25 pm to Hawgnsincebirth55
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Let’s say you are a devout Catholic but don’t agree with the popes beliefs on homosexuality.
What's the Pope's beliefs on homosexuality?
quote:
Would you still be a Catholic if you denounce the pope
You know you can disagree with him without denouncing him right?
Posted on 11/19/24 at 2:25 pm to Mid Iowa Tiger
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The Pope’s infallible teachings have been extremely rarely used.
Your example of homosexuality is a non-negotiable in the church, not because of the Pope’s teachings but Jesus’. So is being a womanizing serial frick boy.
Correct - the pope has personal opinions that you can disagree with. the church has doctrine that you can also disagree with but that would mean you're not in good standing with the church.
Posted on 11/19/24 at 2:26 pm to Hawgnsincebirth55
quote:If the Pope is simply giving his opinion on a topic, then yes you can disagree.
Can you be Catholic without agreeing with the pope?
<--- Catholic
ETA:
Pope's opinion: I am not a fan of the USA's border policy. (You can disagree, it's ok)
Pope's teaching: Muslims share in our salvation. (If you disagree, not good, you're denying church teaching)
LINK
This post was edited on 11/19/24 at 2:31 pm
Posted on 11/19/24 at 2:26 pm to Hawgnsincebirth55
Your question is certainly a valid one.
Seems to me the larger question is, If I don’t belong everything that The Church teaches, am I Catholic?
My devout Catholic father in law told me “it’s not up to us to decide what we like about The Church, it’s our job to follow.”
I’m not Catholic and never have been, but I find the question very interesting, and will follow along out of curiosity.
Seems to me the larger question is, If I don’t belong everything that The Church teaches, am I Catholic?
My devout Catholic father in law told me “it’s not up to us to decide what we like about The Church, it’s our job to follow.”
I’m not Catholic and never have been, but I find the question very interesting, and will follow along out of curiosity.
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