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re: Can someone explain to be how sobriety check points are legal?
Posted on 11/28/25 at 8:24 pm to CollegeFBRules
Posted on 11/28/25 at 8:24 pm to CollegeFBRules
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You want to live in an organized society, this is a small inconvenience that I support based on the mountain of evidence that assholes who are drunk off their asses will think of no one but themselves when drinking and driving.
I bet 99% of drivers passing through a checkpoint are sober. This is an infringement upon rights. Would you consent to being live monitored by police 24/7 to prevent you from committing any crimes?
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Posted on 11/28/25 at 8:26 pm to TexasTiger33
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This appears to be a very divisive issue. I can see both sides have valid points.
It is divisive. But if you support unconstitutional checkpoints because drunk drivers take lives, the same argument could also support frisking black people at any moment with no suspicious just because they do the most shootings and that take lives.
Problem with government overreach is that it's a slippery slope and they will take as much power as you let them.
Posted on 11/28/25 at 8:36 pm to Hawgnsincebirth55
Been legal for 40 years, and practiced for at least 50.
Posted on 11/28/25 at 8:38 pm to tigerinthebueche
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Travel La 415 where it intersects US 190 westbound. LSP has been known to post up right there with some regularity during daytime hours.
They used to be there all the time.
Posted on 11/28/25 at 9:02 pm to Buryl
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Your house is not the same as a public road.
Is it the same as a private car?
Posted on 11/28/25 at 9:04 pm to Hawgnsincebirth55
There's case law. Idr, no arbitrary discrimination, driving is a privilege and not a right.
Posted on 11/28/25 at 9:05 pm to Hawgnsincebirth55
From AI:
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DUI checkpoints are legal because the U.S. Supreme Court has determined that, under certain conditions, they do not violate the Fourth Amendment's protection against unreasonable searches and seizures. These conditions require the checkpoints to be conducted according to strict, non-discriminatory guidelines that balance public safety with individual rights, such as publicizing them in advance, having a supervisory officer make operational decisions, and limiting the time drivers are detained. The primary purpose is to deter drunk driving by increasing the perceived risk of being caught, rather than arbitrary stops.
Posted on 11/28/25 at 9:05 pm to Hawgnsincebirth55
One thing you don’t want to do is pull over and run away
Trust me on that
Trust me on that
Posted on 11/28/25 at 9:11 pm to CollegeFBRules
Lost a family member to a drunk driver.
Driving is a privilege, not a right.
If you feel like getting blitzed, walk home.
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Driving is a privilege, not a right.
If you feel like getting blitzed, walk home.
Team Checkpoint
Posted on 11/28/25 at 9:12 pm to Hawgnsincebirth55
only people against it are drunk drivers
Posted on 11/28/25 at 9:17 pm to Dragula
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only people against it are drunk drivers
Would you support police entering your house at random and doing a search to make sure you hadn't committed any crimes? Because this is the exact same concept.
Posted on 11/28/25 at 9:19 pm to Thundercles
Literally not.
Posted on 11/28/25 at 9:20 pm to Thundercles
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Would you support police entering your house at random and doing a search to make sure you hadn't committed any crimes? Because this is the exact same concept.
I'm not going to have a head on collision with a family on their way home from soccer while I'm sitting on my couch at home.
Posted on 11/28/25 at 9:24 pm to onelochevy
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I'm not going to have a head on collision with a family on their way home from soccer while I'm sitting on my couch at home.
This ignores the question. if you support allowing the police to stop drivers and question them without any evidence, then the logical leap is police can enter your home and search at any time. After all, if you're not doing anything wrong you have nothing to hide.
Posted on 11/28/25 at 9:30 pm to SlidellCajun
Dumas.
Posted on 11/28/25 at 9:33 pm to FlyingPelican
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By stopping and checking everyone, there is no profiling or discrimination.
Magically the checkpoints are never in the hood
They target people that will pay their way through the court system
Posted on 11/28/25 at 9:34 pm to Thundercles
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Would you support police entering your house at random and doing a search to make sure you hadn't committed any crimes? Because this is the exact same concept.
Not even remotely the same...
Posted on 11/28/25 at 9:38 pm to Dragula
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Not even remotely the same...
Why do you say this? Protection from police pulling you over at random despite committing no crimes and interrogating you is granted by the 4th amendment. Protection from police entering and searching your home without your permission or a warrant is granted by the 4th amendment.
If you support the 4th amendment being set aside because of "public interest" for DUI checkpoints then it's just a matter of time until that same concept is used against you to search your home on a whim because of "public interest". I don't know how you're incapable of understanding this. Well, you might be fricking dumb I guess.
Posted on 11/28/25 at 9:40 pm to Dragula
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only people against it are drunk drivers
Well, also people who want you to have the right to make sweeping statements with no solid basis. And you know, have the right to due process, right to privacy in your property... But yeah, just drunk drivers.
Sigh
Posted on 11/28/25 at 9:44 pm to Hawgnsincebirth55
They’re not legal
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