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re: Can school administrators change final grades without consulting with teacher?
Posted on 12/22/13 at 3:07 am to League Champs
Posted on 12/22/13 at 3:07 am to League Champs
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.(1) A teacher's determination of a student's grade as a measure of the academic achievement or proficiency of the student shall not be altered or changed in any manner by any school official or employee other than the teacher except as provided in this Subsection.
I'd love to know what that subsection says.
ETA: Also, I wonder if the rules are the same for private schools. If administrators can't change grades then how do you hold the teacher accountable?
This post was edited on 12/22/13 at 3:09 am
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Posted on 12/22/13 at 8:16 am to EST
They are very limited in changing grades. They can only change grades if they can prove teacher error or if a student wins an appeal. There is a process and everything must be documented.
This happened at West Feliciana High about 10 years ago. A teacher's grades were low and an administrator change gave all students a higher grade. The teacher fought the move and was fired. She hired Jill Craft and sued. She won around a million dollars, but was basically blacklisted as a teacher in the area.
If none of your letter grades changed, it may just be the admin trying to protect you from complaints.
This happened at West Feliciana High about 10 years ago. A teacher's grades were low and an administrator change gave all students a higher grade. The teacher fought the move and was fired. She hired Jill Craft and sued. She won around a million dollars, but was basically blacklisted as a teacher in the area.
If none of your letter grades changed, it may just be the admin trying to protect you from complaints.
This post was edited on 12/22/13 at 8:23 am
Posted on 12/22/13 at 8:30 am to StickyFingaz
Wish I had that happen for me in my trig class at lsu. Had a b at midterm then a d for my final grade. I know the evaluations had to have been bad. Our teacher showed up to class 20 to 30 minutes after it was supposed to start. Wrote one problem on the chalkboard and rolled out. Hard to understand his middle eastern accent. Never saw him on campus after that semester again. This was 2001
Posted on 12/22/13 at 8:40 am to I Ham That I Ham
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same here. made an A on the final and aced like the last 5 assignments. bi*ch
Attendance 95.
All quiz grades together = A - Lowest quiz grade was a 90.
Final = 90.
So fvcked up. Still beyond livid about it all as he hasn't replied to my email after a week.
Posted on 12/22/13 at 8:42 am to EST
I know they can strongly suggest but I don't think they can actually do it. My SO has been threatened by administrators for certain athletes but she never actually changed anything and they never actually did anything to her
Posted on 12/22/13 at 8:46 am to lsucoonass
In grad school at UT (Tenn) I was getting hosed by a teacher weeks after turning in an assignment that she said I failed and all of my worked thereafter was based on that paper and I had to redo everything. No problem redoing the paper and my work, but the F would destroy my final grade for the semester and my GPA. I talked to my graduate program administrator and she told me not to worry about it because all grades were turned into her and she submitted the grades from there. I ended up with an A.
Good luck bro.
I also got a few 89.3s and 89.6s in undergrad at LSU that still reflected as a B on my transcript. Although it sucked at the time, I stilled turned out to be a fine outstanding citizen.
Good luck bro.
I also got a few 89.3s and 89.6s in undergrad at LSU that still reflected as a B on my transcript. Although it sucked at the time, I stilled turned out to be a fine outstanding citizen.
Posted on 12/22/13 at 8:53 am to StickyFingaz
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Yes... happened in my Organic Chem class! Got an email after grades were do saying the teacher sucked and everyone got 5 extra percentage points... Brought me up to an A Dr. Belter was the teacher btw
I was in your class. Belter sucked.
Posted on 12/22/13 at 8:56 am to EST
They can and do!
Posted on 12/22/13 at 9:11 am to EST
I am sure they "could" - just as a bank teller can steal money from the bank.
It is not supposed to be a legitimate option to just change a grade without the teacher's doing it.
However, they do have 'leveling committees' who can promote students to the next grade regardless of current pass/fail status. I don't think individual teachers are involved with this unless they are on the committee.
eta: I am talking only about my high school experience. Others seem to be talking about college.
It is not supposed to be a legitimate option to just change a grade without the teacher's doing it.
However, they do have 'leveling committees' who can promote students to the next grade regardless of current pass/fail status. I don't think individual teachers are involved with this unless they are on the committee.
eta: I am talking only about my high school experience. Others seem to be talking about college.
This post was edited on 12/22/13 at 9:14 am
Posted on 12/22/13 at 9:37 am to Shaun176
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it may just be the admin trying to protect you from complaints.
This is my biggest complaint with education these days, as a teacher. There is a lot of lip service given to having high expectations, but we can't actually follow through on it. Try to raise the bar, grades plummet, parents throw a fit, administrators climb up your arse. Just keep everyone happy and pass little Johnny, even though his head hasn't been off of his desk all year.
As for the OP, I know it's been done where I teach before, but several years ago.
Posted on 12/22/13 at 10:18 am to EST
I had one change one of my students grades from 2 year earlier so the kid could graduate. It was my first year as a teacher and I didn't want to catch hell for saying anything.
Posted on 12/22/13 at 10:52 am to Porter Osborne Jr
If you have an 89 then that's what you earned. Gotta draw the line somewhere
Posted on 12/22/13 at 10:59 am to Grim
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If you have an 89 then that's what you earned. Gotta draw the line somewhere
Exactly. If you give everyone an A that came close then an A really doesn't mean much. It's like giving all the kids a trophy. You get what you earn. If you want more, work harder.
Posted on 12/22/13 at 11:04 am to The First Cut
So this wasn't any preferential treatment, just moving the class average from C- to a C?
Any reason it has you particularly mad?
Any reason it has you particularly mad?
Posted on 12/22/13 at 11:09 am to NoSaint
Because it's not the grades the students actually made? 
Principle.
Principle.
Posted on 12/22/13 at 11:17 am to EST
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Administrator changed all of my students grades to raise each class average by about 5 percentage points (from low C average to a mid C average).
So he basically curved the grades? Hmm..never heard of an administrator changing all the grades so a curve could be applied, but I've seen teachers (in high school and college) do this themselves. Maybe that's the school's policy, but it seems like that would be known among the faculty.
Posted on 12/22/13 at 12:18 pm to Shaun176
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This post was edited on 1/10/14 at 5:18 pm
Posted on 12/22/13 at 12:28 pm to EST
I don't see how they can directly compromise your SLT's. That is a little over-the-top, since your job kind of depends on meeting those.
Posted on 12/22/13 at 12:42 pm to EST
You are in a tough situation. You really don't have any good options. You can fight the grade change, but even if you win the admins will try to push you out.
I would keep quiet and try to make them happy while I looked for another school with more supportive administrators.
Problem is, a lot of school administrators get their positions because of political connections.
I would keep quiet and try to make them happy while I looked for another school with more supportive administrators.
Problem is, a lot of school administrators get their positions because of political connections.
Posted on 12/22/13 at 12:43 pm to High C
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