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Can any LEOs explain this knee on neck tactic?

Posted on 5/31/20 at 9:09 am
Posted by PenguinNinja
Antarctica (and Japan)
Member since Sep 2011
2081 posts
Posted on 5/31/20 at 9:09 am
I assume this is a tactic that’s taught to LEOs for subduing rowdy suspects and this Chauvin guy didn’t just come up with this on his own. Can someone explain the use case?

Is the ANY reasonable reason to continue this for more than 30sec or so while cuffing a perp? Is there any possible explanation for doing it for 4 minutes when there are other police right there who can help assist with cuffing the guy and getting him in a unit?

I’m trying to figure out what Chauvin’s Defense is going to be.
This post was edited on 5/31/20 at 9:16 am
Posted by fastedLSU
BR
Member since Sep 2007
4477 posts
Posted on 5/31/20 at 9:12 am to
Stfu
Posted by rsbd
banks of the Mississippi
Member since Jan 2007
22168 posts
Posted on 5/31/20 at 9:12 am to
Well according to the autopsy that had nothing to do with his death. It was wrong and the man didn’t deserve to die, but facts are facts
Posted by Antonio Moss
Baton Rouge
Member since Mar 2006
48309 posts
Posted on 5/31/20 at 9:12 am to
I can’t fathom his defense. Even if it is a taught tactic for subduing someone, he stayed on Floyd’s neck for a long time after he was cuffed and subdued and even after he passed out.
Posted by 13SaintTiger
Isle of Capri
Member since Sep 2011
18315 posts
Posted on 5/31/20 at 9:14 am to
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that had nothing to do with his death

Posted by Antonio Moss
Baton Rouge
Member since Mar 2006
48309 posts
Posted on 5/31/20 at 9:14 am to
quote:

Well according to the autopsy that had nothing to do with his death


Are you illiterate?

It did not say that.
Posted by PenguinNinja
Antarctica (and Japan)
Member since Sep 2011
2081 posts
Posted on 5/31/20 at 9:14 am to
It’s a legitimate question. frick you.
Posted by OysterPoBoy
City of St. George
Member since Jul 2013
35086 posts
Posted on 5/31/20 at 9:16 am to
I’m pretty sure the crowd telling him to take his knee off is what made him keep it on so long. He was being a dick.
Posted by PenguinNinja
Antarctica (and Japan)
Member since Sep 2011
2081 posts
Posted on 5/31/20 at 12:08 pm to
So is the knee on neck to subdue a suspect a tactic taught to LEOs or not?

Even if it is, there’s no way it’s supposed to be employed for 4 minutes.
Posted by Indfanfromcol
LSU
Member since Jan 2011
14733 posts
Posted on 5/31/20 at 12:10 pm to
I told myself when this all came out, I wouldn’t jump to conclusions. I saw the video, I jumped to conclusions. Then I read the autopsy report and it showed he didn’t die of asphyxiation and there wasn’t even bruising in the neck.

I’m eating crow. It’s probable at this point that the man was ODing, and maybe the elevated heart rate of being arrested is what did him in. But from what is currently being reported, even if that move is not taught by police, at no point did the officer apply enough pressure of have killed him that way.
This post was edited on 5/31/20 at 12:14 pm
Posted by toosleaux
Stuck in Baton Rouge traffic
Member since Dec 2007
9213 posts
Posted on 5/31/20 at 12:11 pm to
The knee on the neck tactic was wrong and indefensible. Just like a gymnastics coach who molests hundreds of girls, or a teacher who makes her kids eat semen-covered cupcakes. There are horrifically bad actors in every profession.
Posted by eddieray
Lafayette
Member since Mar 2006
18023 posts
Posted on 5/31/20 at 12:12 pm to
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Well according to the autopsy that had nothing to do with his death.


You mind if we have a look at that autopsy report?
Posted by Indfanfromcol
LSU
Member since Jan 2011
14733 posts
Posted on 5/31/20 at 12:16 pm to
It’s been posted on here a dozen times. I’m on my phone and can’t find it within a 15 second search, so you do the leg work. But here is an article about it too.

LINK
Posted by WITCH DOCTOR
Louisiana
Member since Mar 2009
3474 posts
Posted on 5/31/20 at 12:20 pm to
The wild part of the whole event...is that the perp and officer both worked security at the same club at the same time...

More to this story...
Posted by 4Ghost
Member since Sep 2016
8518 posts
Posted on 5/31/20 at 12:22 pm to
If Mr Floyd had been physically resisting, face down knee in small of back area till they cuffed his feet and had a hog tie. Once they had a hog tie, no need for any further restraint. Chauvin had no business, absolutely none, maintaining contact with Mr Floyd.
Posted by Indfanfromcol
LSU
Member since Jan 2011
14733 posts
Posted on 5/31/20 at 12:22 pm to
The owner of that club already came out and said they may have never even met each other the entire time. Chauvin was paid to sit in his car outside essentially while Floyd was paid to be a bouncer inside with 12 others. The owner also admitted that George didn’t even look the same from when he worked at the club to when he was arrested.
Posted by Old Money
Member since Sep 2012
36353 posts
Posted on 5/31/20 at 12:22 pm to
Cops generally are not trained well. It’s why they shoot first. Look at that private security guy in Seattle who disarmed the antifa guy who took the AR from that cop vehicle. If an officer saw that, he would have mag dumped the chode.

Knee on neck is just something everyone inherently knows is wrong and there is no defense for that. Bad training & idiots going into a high pressure job.
Posted by Dog Tree
Member since Sep 2019
395 posts
Posted on 5/31/20 at 12:37 pm to
Why did George pass a fake $20?

Why did the mean shop owner call the police?

Why didn't George just get in the police car?
Posted by Antonio Moss
Baton Rouge
Member since Mar 2006
48309 posts
Posted on 5/31/20 at 12:38 pm to
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Why did George pass a fake $20?

Why did the mean shop owner call the police?

Why didn't George just get in the police car?


This isn’t medieval times. You need to evolve.
Posted by Redbone
my castle
Member since Sep 2012
18841 posts
Posted on 5/31/20 at 1:12 pm to
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Even if it is, there’s no way it’s supposed to be employed for 4 minutes.
If you don't know anything about the teaching or use of the technique how would you know how long it can be employed???
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