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Can any LEOs explain this knee on neck tactic?
Posted on 5/31/20 at 9:09 am
Posted on 5/31/20 at 9:09 am
I assume this is a tactic that’s taught to LEOs for subduing rowdy suspects and this Chauvin guy didn’t just come up with this on his own. Can someone explain the use case?
Is the ANY reasonable reason to continue this for more than 30sec or so while cuffing a perp? Is there any possible explanation for doing it for 4 minutes when there are other police right there who can help assist with cuffing the guy and getting him in a unit?
I’m trying to figure out what Chauvin’s Defense is going to be.
Is the ANY reasonable reason to continue this for more than 30sec or so while cuffing a perp? Is there any possible explanation for doing it for 4 minutes when there are other police right there who can help assist with cuffing the guy and getting him in a unit?
I’m trying to figure out what Chauvin’s Defense is going to be.
This post was edited on 5/31/20 at 9:16 am
Posted on 5/31/20 at 9:12 am to PenguinNinja
Well according to the autopsy that had nothing to do with his death. It was wrong and the man didn’t deserve to die, but facts are facts
Posted on 5/31/20 at 9:12 am to PenguinNinja
I can’t fathom his defense. Even if it is a taught tactic for subduing someone, he stayed on Floyd’s neck for a long time after he was cuffed and subdued and even after he passed out.
Posted on 5/31/20 at 9:14 am to rsbd
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that had nothing to do with his death
Posted on 5/31/20 at 9:14 am to rsbd
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Well according to the autopsy that had nothing to do with his death
Are you illiterate?
It did not say that.
Posted on 5/31/20 at 9:14 am to fastedLSU
It’s a legitimate question. frick you.
Posted on 5/31/20 at 9:16 am to PenguinNinja
I’m pretty sure the crowd telling him to take his knee off is what made him keep it on so long. He was being a dick.
Posted on 5/31/20 at 12:08 pm to PenguinNinja
So is the knee on neck to subdue a suspect a tactic taught to LEOs or not?
Even if it is, there’s no way it’s supposed to be employed for 4 minutes.
Even if it is, there’s no way it’s supposed to be employed for 4 minutes.
Posted on 5/31/20 at 12:10 pm to PenguinNinja
I told myself when this all came out, I wouldn’t jump to conclusions. I saw the video, I jumped to conclusions. Then I read the autopsy report and it showed he didn’t die of asphyxiation and there wasn’t even bruising in the neck.
I’m eating crow. It’s probable at this point that the man was ODing, and maybe the elevated heart rate of being arrested is what did him in. But from what is currently being reported, even if that move is not taught by police, at no point did the officer apply enough pressure of have killed him that way.
I’m eating crow. It’s probable at this point that the man was ODing, and maybe the elevated heart rate of being arrested is what did him in. But from what is currently being reported, even if that move is not taught by police, at no point did the officer apply enough pressure of have killed him that way.
This post was edited on 5/31/20 at 12:14 pm
Posted on 5/31/20 at 12:11 pm to PenguinNinja
The knee on the neck tactic was wrong and indefensible. Just like a gymnastics coach who molests hundreds of girls, or a teacher who makes her kids eat semen-covered cupcakes. There are horrifically bad actors in every profession.
Posted on 5/31/20 at 12:12 pm to rsbd
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Well according to the autopsy that had nothing to do with his death.
You mind if we have a look at that autopsy report?
Posted on 5/31/20 at 12:20 pm to PenguinNinja
The wild part of the whole event...is that the perp and officer both worked security at the same club at the same time...
More to this story...
More to this story...
Posted on 5/31/20 at 12:22 pm to PenguinNinja
If Mr Floyd had been physically resisting, face down knee in small of back area till they cuffed his feet and had a hog tie. Once they had a hog tie, no need for any further restraint. Chauvin had no business, absolutely none, maintaining contact with Mr Floyd.
Posted on 5/31/20 at 12:22 pm to WITCH DOCTOR
The owner of that club already came out and said they may have never even met each other the entire time. Chauvin was paid to sit in his car outside essentially while Floyd was paid to be a bouncer inside with 12 others. The owner also admitted that George didn’t even look the same from when he worked at the club to when he was arrested.
Posted on 5/31/20 at 12:22 pm to PenguinNinja
Cops generally are not trained well. It’s why they shoot first. Look at that private security guy in Seattle who disarmed the antifa guy who took the AR from that cop vehicle. If an officer saw that, he would have mag dumped the chode.
Knee on neck is just something everyone inherently knows is wrong and there is no defense for that. Bad training & idiots going into a high pressure job.
Knee on neck is just something everyone inherently knows is wrong and there is no defense for that. Bad training & idiots going into a high pressure job.
Posted on 5/31/20 at 12:37 pm to PenguinNinja
Why did George pass a fake $20?
Why did the mean shop owner call the police?
Why didn't George just get in the police car?
Why did the mean shop owner call the police?
Why didn't George just get in the police car?
Posted on 5/31/20 at 12:38 pm to Dog Tree
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Why did George pass a fake $20?
Why did the mean shop owner call the police?
Why didn't George just get in the police car?
This isn’t medieval times. You need to evolve.
Posted on 5/31/20 at 1:12 pm to PenguinNinja
quote:If you don't know anything about the teaching or use of the technique how would you know how long it can be employed???
Even if it is, there’s no way it’s supposed to be employed for 4 minutes.
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