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re: California should abolish parenthood in the name of equity

Posted on 1/14/22 at 8:41 am to
Posted by HouseMom
Member since Jun 2020
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Posted on 1/14/22 at 8:41 am to
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Good grief, it's a satire piece


Is it? I truly can't tell anymore. And really, it doesn't matter, because we have a country full of idiots who think this way. All equity, all day long. It's the ultimate goal, and it's completely unattainable. It's not how life works.
Posted by GeauxTigerTM
Member since Sep 2006
30596 posts
Posted on 1/14/22 at 8:42 am to
Yeah, this is satire...though in today's world it's often hard to tell. He kinda' nailed this one though.

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But don’t pay those critics any mind. Because they just can’t see how our relentless pursuit of equity might birth a brave new world.


And also...

"modest proposal."

Written by Jonathan Swift.

LINK

quote:

A MODEST PROPOSAL
For preventing the children of poor people in Ireland, from being a burden on their
parents or country, and for making them beneficial to the public.
This post was edited on 1/14/22 at 8:45 am
Posted by TigerHoo
DC
Member since Oct 2005
286 posts
Posted on 1/14/22 at 8:43 am to
For context:

LINK
Posted by SlowFlowPro
Simple Solutions to Complex Probs
Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 1/14/22 at 8:43 am to
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Genes matter. How much they matter is the question but when you look at things like success metrics and IQ it appears that they may matter more than anything else.

Social and economic equity cannot exist because human beings are not equal.

It's not even just genes. People matter. The same principles of the Buckley quote, "freedom breeds inequality" apply here.

Not all parents will parent as well. Now, some of this can be attributed to opportunities presented by privilege, but even in a world of equity, not all people behave the same.
Posted by GetBackToWork
Member since Dec 2007
6254 posts
Posted on 1/14/22 at 8:44 am to
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But my proposal is quite modest,
...



That should've been the phrase most catch. "A Modest Proposal" has been mimicked numerous times in the years since its release in the early 18th century.
Posted by Antonio Moss
Baton Rouge
Member since Mar 2006
48309 posts
Posted on 1/14/22 at 8:46 am to
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Not all parents will parent as well. Now, some of this can be attributed to opportunities presented by privilege, but even in a world of equity, not all people behave the same.


No doubt. My point was simply if you took 100 randomly select infants and raised them the exact same way - you will still have major social and economic stratification when they become adults.

For some reason, leftists believe that human beings are robots that all have the same base software at the start.
Posted by GeauxTigerTM
Member since Sep 2006
30596 posts
Posted on 1/14/22 at 8:46 am to
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That should've been the phrase most catch. "A Modest Proposal" has been mimicked numerous times in the years since its release in the early 18th century.


It's basically a cut and paste job from Swift. But he got me at first too! Then my useless Political Science degree kicked in...
Posted by HouseMom
Member since Jun 2020
1004 posts
Posted on 1/14/22 at 8:46 am to
True, but maybe that's the author's book of life? I've been reading the musings of too many nuts lately. It really wouldn't surprise me.
Posted by GeauxTigerTM
Member since Sep 2006
30596 posts
Posted on 1/14/22 at 8:51 am to
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True, but maybe that's the author's book of life? I've been reading the musings of too many nuts lately. It really wouldn't surprise me.


Nah, it's satire.

That said, we're basically living in a world that is remarkably coming closer and closer to 1984, Animal Farm, Brave New World, V for Vendetta, etc. Christopher Hitchens once mused about North Korea that the Kims must have gotten a hold of 1984 back in the day and decided it was a manual instead of a warning. Day by day it appears The Left world wide are using those as blueprints for the new world.

I'd be curious to see some of the guy's other work...

Posted by roadGator
Member since Feb 2009
140383 posts
Posted on 1/14/22 at 8:51 am to
Holy shite. It’s not the Bee and he is dead serious.

His articles are nothing but commie shite.

He even claims CA real estate is affordable. He’s a loon.


And he coaches little league. The worst kid likely pitches.
This post was edited on 1/14/22 at 8:52 am
Posted by mastersleestak
Foul's Creche
Member since Dec 2014
398 posts
Posted on 1/14/22 at 8:53 am to
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The author is using satire to critique the modern obsession with equity, hence why he ended the piece with "brave new world", which is one of the most famous books about dystopian progressive future.


Yep, and with an obvious nod to Jonathon Swift. It's pretty brilliant actually.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
Simple Solutions to Complex Probs
Member since Jan 2004
422412 posts
Posted on 1/14/22 at 8:54 am to
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if you took 100 randomly select infants and raised them the exact same way - you will still have major social and economic stratification when they become adults.

For some reason, leftists believe that human beings are robots that all have the same base software at the start.

The myth of tabula rasa

Classic Gad Saad before the world went crazy

quote:

Why is the blank slate view of the human mind so pervasive in the social sciences? I propose that it caters to one of the most important of all human quests, the endless pursuit for hope (see chapter 8 of The Consuming Instinct titled “Marketing Hope by Selling Lies”). In the 1994 classic film The Shawshank Redemption, Andy Dufresne [in a letter to his friend Red] (played by Tim Robbins and Morgan Freeman respectively): “Remember Red, hope is a good thing, maybe the best of things, and no good thing ever dies.” It is hopeful to believe that serial killers are not born evil but rather something in their environment must have shaped their diabolic penchants. It is hopeful to believe that all humans are born with equal intelligence potentiality. It is hopeful to believe that beauty is a social construction, and as such all individuals, free of those pesky media images, might be perceived as equally beautiful. It is hopeful to believe that autism is strictly caused by environmental agents (e.g., childhood vaccinations). Each of these faulty attributions is hopeful because it provides people with the illusion of control. Alter the supposed culprit environmental cause and the issue will apparently be resolved. Regrettably, as hopeful as this worldview might be, it is erroneous. It is such fatuous reasoning that led one of my marketing colleagues to proclaim to me at the recent Association for Consumer Research conference held in Vancouver that evolutionary theory has no actionable value. I should rush off and advise all of my colleagues in the evolutionary sciences that we are all wasting our time, as an understanding our evolved and biological-based human nature apparently has no “practical value”! This is the type of resistance that I’ve been facing for the past 15 years in my quest to Darwinize the field of consumer behavior albeit this is becoming an increasingly indefensible position to hold. Human behavior cannot be decoupled from the evolutionary forces that have shaped our minds.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
Simple Solutions to Complex Probs
Member since Jan 2004
422412 posts
Posted on 1/14/22 at 8:54 am to
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and he is dead serious.



quote:

His articles are nothing but commie shite.

He even claims CA real estate is affordable. He’s a loon.

oh boy
Posted by EvrybodysAllAmerican
Member since Apr 2013
11154 posts
Posted on 1/14/22 at 8:55 am to
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This post was edited on 1/14/22 at 11:44 am
Posted by HoustonGumbeauxGuy
Member since Jul 2011
29504 posts
Posted on 1/14/22 at 8:56 am to
I suspect times were just a tad different when Plato was around


Posted by mmmmmbeeer
ATL
Member since Nov 2014
7431 posts
Posted on 1/14/22 at 8:56 am to
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the sad thing is we live in a world where that's even a question.


I don't think it was a question for most people whether this was satire; it's pretty obvious. And if it was a question for most, God help us, the outrage machine has grown too powerful.
Posted by roadGator
Member since Feb 2009
140383 posts
Posted on 1/14/22 at 8:56 am to
He writes for wapo

No way they let him take stabs at progressivism.

I read parts of several of his articles.

I’m thinking he is full commie.

Maybe I’m being tricked but his articles are consistent.

Would wapo publish a a guy that makes fun of their ideology?

Posted by Volvagia
Fort Worth
Member since Mar 2006
51904 posts
Posted on 1/14/22 at 8:56 am to
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Good grief, it's a satire piece


Nothing about the VCStar, the author, or his base organization (zócalo public square) backgrounds would suggest it.
This post was edited on 1/14/22 at 9:03 am
Posted by Hangover Haven
Metry
Member since Oct 2013
26536 posts
Posted on 1/14/22 at 9:00 am to
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The author is using satire to critique the modern obsession with equity, hence why he ended the piece with "brave new world", which is one of the most famous books about dystopian progressive future.


Pretty much what I got out of it, calling out California government with its ridiculous legislation it comes up with sometimes.

Some people on here take shite verbatim when they read it and really need to understand sarcasm..
This post was edited on 1/14/22 at 9:04 am
Posted by Volvagia
Fort Worth
Member since Mar 2006
51904 posts
Posted on 1/14/22 at 9:02 am to

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That should've been the phrase most catch. "A Modest Proposal" has been mimicked numerous times in the years since its release in the early 18th century.


In that context I don’t get the point though.




Swift was mocking heartlessness to the poor by suggesting the obvious solution was to simply sell their kids for food.



What is the point here? Who is the target?
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