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re: Cali man has $29k siezed in Chicago airport without charges

Posted on 8/13/18 at 4:17 pm to
Posted by mmmmmbeeer
ATL
Member since Nov 2014
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Posted on 8/13/18 at 4:17 pm to
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Thank God they cleared that up.


Apparently LE needs the reminder.
Posted by slackster
Houston
Member since Mar 2009
91320 posts
Posted on 8/13/18 at 4:18 pm to
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think the basic question is why does simply carrying cash imply required suspicion?


I agree with you on the CAF being atrocious, but let's be fair about their argument - simply carrying cash won't get it seized. They need probable cause to seize it.

However, when they need probable cause, they'll make damn sure they find it. It's a racket, plain and simple.
Posted by Y.A. Tittle
Member since Sep 2003
109606 posts
Posted on 8/13/18 at 4:18 pm to
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Cross state lines with more than $9k and you kinda deserve your headache


Should we post troopers at Interstate welcome centers to make sure this ain't happening more?
Posted by Hangit
The Green Swamp
Member since Aug 2014
45315 posts
Posted on 8/13/18 at 4:19 pm to
They need to give this baw his money back, along with a 3 piece w/red beans, for his trouble. He also needs to be allowed to punch them in the face.
Posted by Tiger Ryno
#WoF
Member since Feb 2007
107501 posts
Posted on 8/13/18 at 4:19 pm to
I'm fundamentally states rights, small Government,indivual. Freedom first no matter what and that's why I support asset forfeiture. Not good reason in this age to carry that much cash on one's person.
Posted by Darth_Vader
A galaxy far, far away
Member since Dec 2011
72094 posts
Posted on 8/13/18 at 4:19 pm to
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BS but if you are going to carry over 10k you might want to have proof of where that cash came from.



Show me in the constitution where it says this? All I can find is this....

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The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no Warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by Oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized.


Seems pretty cut and dry to me that this man’s 4th Amendment rights were completely shat upon by these DEA thugs.
Posted by Tiger Ryno
#WoF
Member since Feb 2007
107501 posts
Posted on 8/13/18 at 4:20 pm to
Show me in the constitution where it says you can't smoke drugs?
Posted by Darth_Vader
A galaxy far, far away
Member since Dec 2011
72094 posts
Posted on 8/13/18 at 4:21 pm to
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I'm fundamentally states rights, small Government,indivual. Freedom first no matter what and that's why I support asset forfeiture. Not good reason in this age to carry that much cash on one's person.


So you want the government to arbitrarily be able to decide how much money you can carry on you? And if they decide you have more than you need they can just take it?
Posted by Green Chili Tiger
Lurking the Tin Foil Hat Board
Member since Jul 2009
50478 posts
Posted on 8/13/18 at 4:22 pm to
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Not good reason in this age to carry that much cash on one's person.




Only an authoritarian would think you need a reason, much less a "good" one.
Posted by Darth_Vader
A galaxy far, far away
Member since Dec 2011
72094 posts
Posted on 8/13/18 at 4:22 pm to
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Show me in the constitution where it says you can't smoke drugs?



What the frick does drugs have to do with this man and his money? He didn’t even have drugs on him.
Posted by Tiger Ryno
#WoF
Member since Feb 2007
107501 posts
Posted on 8/13/18 at 4:22 pm to
As long as the government stays small and don't overreach then, yes. I'm small Government.
Posted by NYNolaguy1
Member since May 2011
21692 posts
Posted on 8/13/18 at 4:22 pm to
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simply carrying cash won't get it seized. They need probable cause to seize it.




Fortunately he is always close by, especially given almost all cash has residual traces of drugs on it .
Posted by Y.A. Tittle
Member since Sep 2003
109606 posts
Posted on 8/13/18 at 4:23 pm to
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As long as the government stays small and don't overreach then, yes. I'm small Government.




Or as long as people can give you a "good reason" for doing whatever they happen to be doing.
Posted by Tiger Ryno
#WoF
Member since Feb 2007
107501 posts
Posted on 8/13/18 at 4:24 pm to
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What the frick does drugs have to do with this man and his money? He didn’t even have drugs on him.





You taking his side over law enforcement t who have sworn an oath to serve and protect? The dogs smelled drugs.
Posted by ThatMakesSense
Fort Lauderdale
Member since Aug 2015
15281 posts
Posted on 8/13/18 at 4:24 pm to
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What the frick does drugs have to do with this man and his money? He didn’t even have drugs on him.



Why couldn't the man deposit the money before heading home?

Would you carry 29k in cash? Anywhere?
Posted by NYNolaguy1
Member since May 2011
21692 posts
Posted on 8/13/18 at 4:24 pm to
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Freedom first no matter what and that's why I support asset forfeiture. Not good reason in this age to carry that much cash on one's person.


Nothing says freedom like restricting how much cash you can have.
Posted by PrivatePublic
Member since Nov 2012
17848 posts
Posted on 8/13/18 at 4:24 pm to
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CAF is BS but if you are going to carry over 10k you might want to have proof of where that cash came from.


How does this work exactly? A bank receipt doesn't list the serial number of each note.
Posted by mmmmmbeeer
ATL
Member since Nov 2014
9738 posts
Posted on 8/13/18 at 4:24 pm to
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They need probable cause to seize it.


Your idea of probable cause and LE's idea of probably cause, when there are thousands of free money at stake, are worlds apart.

Tennessee is notorious for CAF on interstates. If I recall, their "probable cause" is simply the amount of cash you have. If it's over $x, they're taking it and there's not a fricking thing you can do about it.

Back the blue though, eh?
Posted by Tiger Ryno
#WoF
Member since Feb 2007
107501 posts
Posted on 8/13/18 at 4:25 pm to
Doesn't fit the Perp's narrative.
Posted by momentoftruth87
Your mom
Member since Oct 2013
86110 posts
Posted on 8/13/18 at 4:26 pm to
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Yuba City


Witnessed a murder there in '08.
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