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re: But seriously folks why isnt there pics of flight 77 slamming into Pentagon
Posted on 9/12/18 at 8:58 am to TH03
Posted on 9/12/18 at 8:58 am to TH03
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I’m not taking one side or the other in this discussion, but being a pilot doesn’t make him an expert in the damage caused at the pentagon
No, but it probably does give him enough knowledge to know that most of the damage could not possibly have been done by the landing gear in a head on intentional collision.
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Posted on 9/12/18 at 8:59 am to TH03
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I’m not taking one side or the other in this discussion, but being a pilot doesn’t make him an expert in the damage caused at the pentagon.
i could go into the forensics of this. 
Posted on 9/12/18 at 8:59 am to p&g
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But you tell me how in he hell did a rookie pilot manage to steer that big arse jet on the trajectory it did perfectly into that building?
I guess you didn’t hear about the ground crew dude that stole a commercial airliner and was doing barrel rolls and fricking loop the loops recently?
Posted on 9/12/18 at 8:59 am to GetCocky11
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At 500mph?
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We made several modifications to the building as part of that renovation that we think helped save people’s lives,” says Lee Evey, who runs a billion-dollar project to renovate the Pentagon. They’ve been working on it since 1993. The first section was five days from being finished when the terrorists hit it with the plane. The renovation project built strength into the 60-year-old limestone exterior with a web of steel beams and columns. “You have these steel tubes and, again, they go from the first floor and go all the way to the fifth floor,” says Evey. “We have everything bolted together in a strong steel matrix. It supports and encases the windows and provides tremendous additional strength to the wall.” When the plane hit at 350 miles an hour, the limestone layer shattered. But inside, those shards of stone were caught by a shield of cloth that lines the entire section of the building. It is a special cloth that helps prevent masonry from fragmenting and turning into shrapnel. The cloth is also used to make bullet-resistant vests. All of this, especially the steel, held up the third, fourth and fifth floors. They stayed up for 35 minutes. You can see them through the smoke, suspended over the hole gouged by the jet. Only after the evacuation did the heat melt the new steel away. Evey says that without the reconstruction, the floors might have collapsed immediately.
Posted on 9/12/18 at 8:59 am to p&g
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But you tell me how in he hell did a rookie pilot manage to steer that big arse jet on the trajectory it did perfectly into that building?
They were being trained on flight simulators in Minnesota. The CIA even knew about but didn't have enough intel to link them to known terrorist in the ME to arrest them.
Posted on 9/12/18 at 9:00 am to GrammarKnotsi
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I'm simply citing sources that show the damage was caused by other parts of the plane
Which is certainly a fair argument to make. Arguing that most of the damage was done by the landing gear is pretty silly though, IMO.
Posted on 9/12/18 at 9:00 am to CarRamrod
semi-monocoque design making it stronger.
Posted on 9/12/18 at 9:00 am to maxxrajun70
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I'm not conspiracy guy
Posted on 9/12/18 at 9:01 am to Tuscaloosa
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it probably does give him enough knowledge to know that most of the damage could not possibly have been done by the landing gear in a head on intentional collision.
I said most of the damage to the walls...Sorry you're stuck on "most", I can edit to say "a good bit" if that helps you move on with your day..
Posted on 9/12/18 at 9:01 am to CarRamrod
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but it isnt something that is going to crumble thick concrete walls.
bro, do even mass and inertia?
Posted on 9/12/18 at 9:02 am to GrammarKnotsi
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I can edit to say "a good bit" if that helps you move on with your day..
That would help tremendously. I appreciate the effort.
Posted on 9/12/18 at 9:03 am to GetCocky11
quote:well speed does increase your impact load. a 777 max speed is 590(google) which i would assume would need to be at a certain altitude. I would guess stall speed would be around 130. so i would think it would be traveling a little faster than that. So dont throw out this 500 mph shite.
but it isnt something that is going to crumble thick concrete walls.
At 500mph?
btw mass x velocity will give you your linear momentum for your impact load.
Posted on 9/12/18 at 9:03 am to TH03
Fake.
Posted on 9/12/18 at 9:03 am to CarRamrod
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They dont realize they are made out of types lightweight aluminum.
And titanium.
When a B-25 hit the ESB, it looked like this.
The crash tore a hole about 18 ft (5.5 m) wide by 20 ft (6 m) tall in the 34th Street exterior of the Empire State Building. While the 78th and 79th floors bore the brunt of the damage, one of the B-25's engines fell down an elevator shaft and set off a major fire in the basement. The other engine hurtled across the building and tore through seven walls before emerging from the 33rd Street side of the tower. The debris crashed through the roof of a thirteen-story building across the street where another fire erupted. Other heavy wreckage, including the landing gear, also caused damage to the Empire State and nearby buildings while Stan Lomax reportedly saw part of a wing catapulting towards Madison Avenue.
A B-25 is 10 tons empty and was probably carrying 2 to 4 tons of fuel, crew, equipment, etc. Unlikely to have been over 200, 210 knots at impact.
Flight 77 was probably 125 tons, much of that jet fuel, and in excess of 300 knots.
Folks who don't believe planes did the damage to these buildings:
1. Don't want to believe it for other than factual/evidentiary reasons, and/or
2. Do not understand the laws of physics.
Posted on 9/12/18 at 9:03 am to GrammarKnotsi
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Several documents reference the landing gear doing most of the damage to the walls, not the fuselages
Chem trail dispensing unit must have been empty then. If those things are full, Lookout!
Posted on 9/12/18 at 9:04 am to maxxrajun70
There is security footage of it.
Posted on 9/12/18 at 9:04 am to Tuscaloosa
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most of the damage could not possibly have been done by the landing gear in a head on intentional collision.
especially since it was retracted into the fuselage at the point of impact
Posted on 9/12/18 at 9:05 am to OG Supreme
No it’s real. I promise.
Posted on 9/12/18 at 9:05 am to p&g
quote:it's not that hard
But you tell me how in he hell did a rookie pilot manage to steer that big arse jet on the trajectory it did perfectly into that building?
Posted on 9/12/18 at 9:05 am to Drunken Crawfish
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The CIA even knew about but didn't have enough intel to link them to known terrorist in the ME to arrest them.
Because the Jamie Gorelick wall prevented the CIA and FBI from comparing notes about these "gentlemen."
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