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re: Buffalo to Milwaukee, “hold my beer” updated, 10 dead, suspect in custody

Posted on 5/15/22 at 10:33 am to
Posted by Tigerpride18
Lakewood Colorado
Member since Sep 2017
32741 posts
Posted on 5/15/22 at 10:33 am to
From the political board


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Too obvious. AZOV Battalion member makes sense. But the media will be told to say he lived in some hick redneck white supremacist camp with MAGA signs. I also saw a report that there are so many people flowing the southern border (large white unmarked buses') that ICE or no one is protecting the Southern border anymore. The plan seems to be to get them registered as democrats and turn certain States blue. AND letting in the AZOV Battalion, cartel, drugs. Until America is on her knees. So this kid flew in from Ukraine, Russia carte blanche' or came through the border. We should be impeaching and screaming from the mountain tops. Instead Turtle is giving Ukraine more money. Imagine M16 gang members and AZOV Battalion forming an army.
Posted by davyjones
NELA
Member since Feb 2019
36755 posts
Posted on 5/15/22 at 10:34 am to
You think it’s really that outlandish the possibility that the kid was worked on 4chan to produce an outcome? Maybe it could simply be civilian provocateurs who would do such a thing for deviant kicks, but to insinuate that the FBI doesn’t provoke individuals into doing things for their own scheming purposes is just outright naïve. They do it in all sorts of scenarios all the time.
Posted by RIPMachoMan
Member since Jun 2011
9081 posts
Posted on 5/15/22 at 10:39 am to
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From the political board


Sheesh
Posted by Obtuse1
Westside Bodymore Yo
Member since Sep 2016
30512 posts
Posted on 5/15/22 at 10:42 am to
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My LR 308 must be special. It auto loads directly after the shot, and is ready on trigger reset, loaded and ready to fire again.

Its magic. For some weird reason that chamber stays full until the mag is empty.


If it did it wouldn't just be special it would indeed be magical because it would break certain laws of physics.

In a semi or fully-automatic rifle when the round is fired the bolt moves backward pulling the brass out of the chamber and ejecting it and for some finite amount of time the champer is empty (unless you are counting air or ignition gasses) prior to the bolt moving forward and pushing the next round into the chamber.

We could have a slightly different conversation about a revolver.
Posted by UndercoverBryologist
Member since Nov 2020
8077 posts
Posted on 5/15/22 at 10:43 am to
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You think it’s really that outlandish the possibility that the kid was worked on 4chan to produce an outcome? Maybe it could simply be civilian provocateurs who would do such a thing for deviant kicks, but to insinuate that the FBI doesn’t provoke individuals into doing things for their own scheming purposes is just outright naïve. They do it in all sorts of scenarios all the time.



I don’t think it’s entirely impossible that the little fricker was goaded by an FBI provocateur...I just think the FBI...even as slimy as they can be...would probably be minding their ps and qs for the time being at least until the the Michigan kidnapping plot trial was far enough in the past.

So, parsimoniously, I conclude for the time being, it seems a bit of a stretch to assume that the FBI provoked this.

Edit: Plus, the Michigan thing requires tons of planning and orchestration that the FBI was material to to get the ball rolling. That’s why the guys walked on an entrapment defense. This Buffalo thing is just a 4chan addict who loaded up on guns and found the nearest high-African American percentage municipality near him and shot up a store. The FBI would probably frick it up by making the plan more complicated than it needed to be.
This post was edited on 5/15/22 at 10:46 am
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
299716 posts
Posted on 5/15/22 at 10:44 am to
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and ejecting it and for some finite amount of time


Literally a fraction of a second, and is ready to fire every time I pull that trigger. Every single time.

Its magic. While you're waiting for the reload fairy, mine is always ready to fire.

quote:

In a semi or fully-automatic rifle when the round is fired the bolt moves backward pulling the brass out of the chamber and ejecting it and for some finite amount of time the champer is empty (unless you are counting air or ignition gasses) prior to the bolt moving forward and pushing the next round into the chamber.


Yeah, I just built three. All this time I never knew how these things operated. Damn. Bought every single piece individually and put together.

If I only had consulted you first.

I'm studding it out if you would like an offspring.
This post was edited on 5/15/22 at 10:54 am
Posted by fallguy_1978
Best States #50
Member since Feb 2018
53536 posts
Posted on 5/15/22 at 10:47 am to
We'd be better off never mentioning the name of these freaks in the media. Kind of hard I guess in today's social media fueled society.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
299716 posts
Posted on 5/15/22 at 10:54 am to
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We'd be better off never mentioning the name of these freaks in the media.


Bingo. this guy was a copycat, now people will copycat him.
Posted by davyjones
NELA
Member since Feb 2019
36755 posts
Posted on 5/15/22 at 11:14 am to
Fair
Posted by NawlinsTiger9
Where the mongooses roam
Member since Jan 2009
39659 posts
Posted on 5/15/22 at 11:22 am to
quote:

You think it’s really that outlandish the possibility that the kid was worked on 4chan to produce an outcome? Maybe it could simply be civilian provocateurs who would do such a thing for deviant kicks, but to insinuate that the FBI doesn’t provoke individuals into doing things for their own scheming purposes is just outright naïve. They do it in all sorts of scenarios all the time.


Ho lee shite
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
299716 posts
Posted on 5/15/22 at 11:26 am to
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Ho lee shite


He's right.

What did he say that wasn't plausible? He just said the dude got radicalized which is true.
Posted by Cenlabration
The Ville of Pine
Member since Apr 2021
1515 posts
Posted on 5/15/22 at 11:30 am to
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Bingo. this guy was a copycat, now people will copycat him

I'd like to strangle this little fricker myself, just for the political ramifications from this. You better believe there was a lot of smiles in the white house when this popped live on the news. Just when there was getting a little bit of traction nationally about the reality of crime in this country, this shite happens.

This is going to be bad.
Posted by floyd of pink
Metry
Member since Nov 2011
3334 posts
Posted on 5/15/22 at 11:31 am to
I watched that shooting unfortunately, but wasn’t the very first victim a white woman?
Posted by Klark Kent
Houston via BR
Member since Jan 2008
74864 posts
Posted on 5/15/22 at 11:36 am to
it’s NawlinsTiger9, ignore him.
Posted by davyjones
NELA
Member since Feb 2019
36755 posts
Posted on 5/15/22 at 11:41 am to
One of two things is possible here: maybe poster didn’t fully understand my points; or if not (2) my best friendly advice to poster would be to proactively avoid any future discussion involving the ins and outs of the FBI. Because my point was of the most basic kind on that subject. I’ve actually sat in on FBI and DEA interviews with clients. One interesting instance was a task force investigation involving both, sitting with agents of both organizations, and without any noticeable concern I find out that the target of the overall investigation had been recently pulled over with a few thousand xanax bars. A few thousand. And a short while later the fella was back in his car driving off into the sunset. Now he was indeed sans all the pills, they did confiscate them, but the simple comment on the matter by agent 1 was that “he wasn’t ready”. All sorts of shady arse shite. Granted, usually in the name of the greater good is how they approach it, ends justify the means. Now, as a defense attorney I took it as most likely the target didn’t have the monetary goodies with him at the time, which is of course be seized. Which is perhaps the top objective. They caught and released, hoping to catch him again at which time he’d hopefully be a trophy fish.
Posted by NawlinsTiger9
Where the mongooses roam
Member since Jan 2009
39659 posts
Posted on 5/15/22 at 11:42 am to
I took a break and forgot how fricking crazy y’all had become

Carry on, I’m sure I’ll be reading about one of you in the paper eventually.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
299716 posts
Posted on 5/15/22 at 11:44 am to
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I took a break and forgot how fricking crazy y’all had become


The only thing crazy here is your belief that false flags don't occur.

You would have to be uber naïve to believe that.
Posted by danilo
Member since Nov 2008
25733 posts
Posted on 5/15/22 at 11:44 am to
Where can I see the stream?
Posted by Klark Kent
Houston via BR
Member since Jan 2008
74864 posts
Posted on 5/15/22 at 11:45 am to
tell DU the OT said hello.
Posted by BayouBlitz
Member since Aug 2007
18126 posts
Posted on 5/15/22 at 11:45 am to
Why would you want to? It's people getting murdered.
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