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re: Breaking - Passenger jet crashes in Pakistan

Posted on 5/22/20 at 8:45 am to
Posted by The Sea Otter
AR-Kansas
Member since Mar 2019
583 posts
Posted on 5/22/20 at 8:45 am to
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Passenger jet crashes in Pakistan


"Crashes"

Posted by Sasquatch Smash
Member since Nov 2007
25964 posts
Posted on 5/22/20 at 8:48 am to
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Man, that's fricking teamwork right there.

Green shirt has them "secured" to the train while long-sleeved shirt helps green shirt stay upright.
Posted by Kjun Tiger
Member since Dec 2014
2147 posts
Posted on 5/22/20 at 9:04 am to
Dude in the brown shirt looks like Bobby Jindal.
Posted by Wally Sparks
Atlanta
Member since Feb 2013
32895 posts
Posted on 5/22/20 at 9:06 am to
Of course I see this before I get on a plane today
Posted by genuineLSUtiger
Nashville
Member since Sep 2005
77216 posts
Posted on 5/22/20 at 10:04 am to
Covid 19 gives no quarter. Pilot with corona symptoms maybe?
Posted by redstick13
Lower Saxony
Member since Feb 2007
41402 posts
Posted on 5/22/20 at 10:08 am to
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Covid 19 gives no quarter. Pilot with corona symptoms maybe?



Mechanical issues.
Posted by choppadocta
Louisiana
Member since May 2014
2591 posts
Posted on 5/22/20 at 10:32 am to
I have seen a picture from a failed go around attempt, there is scorching under both engine cowlings and the emergency ram air turbine(RAT)is deployed. Gear is up and I see no smoke. Possible dual engine failure
Posted by BHM
Member since Jun 2012
4126 posts
Posted on 5/22/20 at 10:33 am to
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Dude in the brown shirt looks like Bobby Jindal.




They all look alike.
Posted by NastyTiger
Hammond/Baton Rouge/Lafayette
Member since Jun 2005
11271 posts
Posted on 5/22/20 at 10:34 am to
damn, that's awful
Posted by real turf fan
East Tennessee
Member since Dec 2016
12257 posts
Posted on 5/22/20 at 10:45 am to
Update said both engines failed.

Three passengers on the front row of seats survived, one was president of the Bank of Punjab

From the link below, this sort of explains the 'front row' survivorship
quote:

Reports indicated that the plane's tail-end hit the ground first and that anyone who survived was seated in the front portion.
This post was edited on 5/22/20 at 2:20 pm
Posted by Uncs
Member since Aug 2008
3080 posts
Posted on 5/22/20 at 10:46 am to
If course it crashed..... tell me an instance where a plane shot out of the sky didn't finally "Crash"!!!!!

Come on baw's think
Posted by 50407Tiger
Member since Oct 2019
1227 posts
Posted on 5/22/20 at 10:48 am to
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InB4 the normal people coming to blame Boeing for a wreck in Pakistan.


quote:

OleWarSkuleAlum


I blame you.
Posted by redstick13
Lower Saxony
Member since Feb 2007
41402 posts
Posted on 5/22/20 at 10:50 am to
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Update said both engines failed.



Damn that would be an awful feeling knowing there's nothing you can do. I'm shocked anyone survived.
Posted by IAmNERD
Member since May 2017
24519 posts
Posted on 5/22/20 at 11:17 am to
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Three passengers on the front row of seats survived

Whoa.
Posted by Celery
Nuevo York
Member since Nov 2010
11748 posts
Posted on 5/22/20 at 11:22 am to
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The world is almost 2/3rds Asian!


The average human probably looks half Chinese, half Indian.
Posted by Jim Rockford
Member since May 2011
106136 posts
Posted on 5/22/20 at 11:25 am to
Posted by gthog61
Irving, TX
Member since Nov 2009
71001 posts
Posted on 5/22/20 at 11:26 am to
quote:

The world is almost 2/3rds Asian!


Asians frick
Posted by dbeck
Member since Nov 2014
29454 posts
Posted on 5/22/20 at 11:28 am to
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(We all know that he used the french term, but mayday is what we recognize.)

M'aidez literally translates to "help me"
Posted by When in Rome
Telegraph Road
Member since Jan 2011
36242 posts
Posted on 5/22/20 at 11:46 am to
Kind of a tangent, but I remember a Twitter thread from a while back that discussed mayday and pan pan that I found interesting.

Twitter

quote:

A few discussions going on today about Mayday and Pan Pan.

The International Civil Aviation Organization (ICAO) designates what words pilots and controllers use to communicate worldwide.

Pan Pan and Mayday are ICAO designated distress phrases.

A lot of US pilots aren’t familiar with the ICAO terms. We just use the phrase “declaring an emergency.”

In many countries, “declare an emergency” has no meaning. Don’t try to use it in China.

When PanPan/Mayday are heard, everyone stays quiet so ATC can help the distressed aircraft.

Pan Pan is the term used when a ship or aircraft has an urgent situation - but, for the time being, the problem doesn’t pose immediate danger to anyone’s life or the vessel itself.

Example:
Pan Pan, Pan Pan, Pan Pan. Shanghai Control, AeroSavvy 911 requires immediate left turn for severe weather.

Or

Pan Pan, Pan Pan, Pan Pan. Kansai approach, AeroSavvy 911 - flap failure. Unable to fly arrival. Request vectors for 20 mile final.

This lets controllers know we have a problem and need assistance but we have things under control.

It’ll work out, but delays or a normal approach could cause problems.

Mayday is the term used to alert authorities that we have *imminent* danger to life or the vessel itself.

The phrase is stated 3 times to assure no confusion.

If things are going to hell in a hand basket, Mayday is the right call...

Example:

Mayday, Mayday, Mayday. Incheon Approach. AeroSavvy 911. Smoke in the cockpit. Request vectors for immediate landing. High speed descent.

Mayday tells the controllers that they need to move *everyone* out of the way. The distress aircraft can’t afford any delays.

Pilots can change Pan Pan into Mayday & vice versa. They can even cancel the declaration:

“AeroSavvy 911 is clear of weather. Cancel Pan Pan.”

Choosing Mayday or Pan Pan is up to the Pilot in Command. Both are emergency declarations. Choosing appropriately helps ATC understand the level of urgency.

More info: AeroSavvy
Posted by idlewatcher
Planet Arium
Member since Jan 2012
98857 posts
Posted on 5/22/20 at 11:49 am to
quote:

Three passengers on the front row of seats survived


Whoa.


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