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re: BR Public School Teachers - 1 out of 6 Sitting Today Out in Protest

Posted on 4/12/21 at 3:51 pm to
Posted by SouthEndzoneTiger
Louisiana
Member since Mar 2008
10600 posts
Posted on 4/12/21 at 3:51 pm to
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You are comparing apples to bricks.


The gripe was extra work days for less pay for teachers. I now have extra work days with less pay (albeit the "pay" part is the same, it's less due to gas expenses). Seems apples to apples to me. I could accept it, which I did, or quit, which many people did.
Posted by Gulf Coast Tiger
Ms Gulf Coast
Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 4/12/21 at 4:10 pm to
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The super wants them to work 10 extra days, and wants to pay them $130/day.



How many days have they gotten paid for not working in the last year?
Posted by Swagga
504
Member since Dec 2009
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Posted on 4/12/21 at 4:11 pm to
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The super wants them to work 10 extra days, and wants to pay them $130/day.




You’re leaving out where they would most likely get 10 extra days off during the year for weather related issues. And get paid for those.
Posted by tduecen
Member since Nov 2006
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Posted on 4/12/21 at 4:23 pm to
Ebr is a shothole
Posted by tigergirl10
Member since Jul 2019
10310 posts
Posted on 4/12/21 at 5:11 pm to
You wouldn’t last an hour teaching in BR public schools. I did for 2 years, and 500k wouldn’t be enough to teach those animals.
Posted by TigerintheNO
New Orleans
Member since Jan 2004
41187 posts
Posted on 4/12/21 at 5:19 pm to
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paying employees an additional $1,300 stipend


Why don't they just pay them their normal rate of pay?

Why do the cafeteria workers make more than normal pay, while the Chemistry teachers make less than their normal pay?
Posted by LSUFanHouston
NOLA
Member since Jul 2009
37093 posts
Posted on 4/12/21 at 5:28 pm to
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The gripe was extra work days for less pay for teachers. I now have extra work days with less pay (albeit the "pay" part is the same, it's less due to gas expenses). Seems apples to apples to me. I could accept it, which I did, or quit, which many people did.


You are working the same number of hours, right? Instead of working 10 hour days, you are now working 9 hour days, with 1 8 hour day, every two weeks. You are still working the same amount. You are working 0 extra hours.

The teachers are being asked to work 80 extra hours (assuming 10 days of 8 hours each).

The teachers are working more. You are not. Hell, the teachers I guess have 10 extra days of driving. You have 1 extra day every two weeks.

How much in gas do you spend on your daily commute, that this qualifies as an issue? Even if burn a gal of gas each way, we are talking what, $5 every other week? $110 over the course of a year?
This post was edited on 4/12/21 at 5:30 pm
Posted by Jay Are
Baton Rouge
Member since Nov 2014
4841 posts
Posted on 4/12/21 at 6:01 pm to
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How many days have they gotten paid for not working in the last year?


Probably the same as you. Between 0 and 5.
Posted by Gulf Coast Tiger
Ms Gulf Coast
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Posted on 4/12/21 at 8:40 pm to
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Posted by Gulf Coast Tiger
Ms Gulf Coast
Member since Jan 2004
18663 posts
Posted on 4/12/21 at 8:41 pm to
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Probably the same as you. Between 0 and 5.



I own a small business. If I don't work I don't get paid
Posted by bigpoppadiesel35
Member since Oct 2010
193 posts
Posted on 4/12/21 at 10:27 pm to
Your explanation of total payleaves me puzzled. You state you're receiving summer paychecks because you have your 9 month gross pay amount paid to you in 12 months of paychecks versus 9 months of paychecks, therefore you're receiving the same amount of pay over a longer period of time.
Are you truly being paid an EXTRA 10 days of pay over and above what your NORMAL summer paycheck amount is PLUS a $ 1300 stipend if you report to work 10 days EARLY? OR are you receiving ONLY the $ 1300 stipend IN ADDITION to your NORMAL summer paycheck amount?
Posted by SouthEndzoneTiger
Louisiana
Member since Mar 2008
10600 posts
Posted on 4/12/21 at 10:56 pm to
You are an insufferable bitch. You are arguing just to argue at this point. Maybe even trolling. They are getting paid for those extra days, maybe 20 or 30 bucks less each day, because of the stipend. I'm losing money, they are losing money. The exact dollar amount is what it is. Comparable, I assure you. Shut the frick up and take your math loss.
Posted by SouthEndzoneTiger
Louisiana
Member since Mar 2008
10600 posts
Posted on 4/12/21 at 11:02 pm to
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The teachers are being asked to work 80 extra hours (assuming 10 days of 8 hours each).

The teachers are working more. You are not. Hell, the teachers I guess have 10 extra days of driving. You have 1 extra day every two weeks.


Math? The teachers are working 10 extra days, as per your post above. And because of your inability to read, you fail to acknowledge that I am working an extra 26 days a year, as I have stated in every post I mentioned this to you. But you want to word it as "1 extra day every two weeks". Yes, that's right. 26 more days a year. No extra pay. Give up dude.
Posted by Jay Are
Baton Rouge
Member since Nov 2014
4841 posts
Posted on 4/12/21 at 11:47 pm to
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I own a small business. If I don't work I don't get paid


Hey, that's cool, and the same as basically all professions. Good news though, teachers weren't off! I'm assuming most people here aren't stupid enough to believe anything that squid idiot said earlier in this thread. Vast majority of districts didn't hold school for a few days in order to plan how to provide digital services to thousands of kids on the fly. Your kids didn't go to school, but their teachers were working. They're sorry no one knew how to instantly make something completely unplanned and brand new work without an interruption.

Also, fukk anyone in here comparing teacher salary to their own. Teachers don't have the ability to work harder, longer hours and get a raise, but they sure as shite all work a hell of a lot longer than the 40 hours a week that they have kids in their rooms. Planning lessons and grading work in the time a teacher is given for planning is impossible.

This is 10 extra days of school, 5 days of professional development, and more hours on top of that for planning and grading. Give them the amount equal to their wages, which is more than $1300. The ebr contract is 9 months, which does not include these days; many defer payments to have smaller checks spread out evenly over the course of 12 months. The teacher several posts back either doesn't realize what he's not going to be getting or he doesn't realize how confusingly he worded how he will get paid. He's getting his "normal pay" because he deferred payments. He's not getting the deferred payments, his salary for the new school year, and the stipend.

Best choice - don't go back to school early. The reason the superintendent gave at that press announcement about "Learning gaps" is complete BS. It assumes every kid in a given grade will show up with the exact same learning gaps. That's not how learning works. Curricula were still covered, but they were covered with fewer supports. What kids missed out struggled with will be specific to a spefici kid. How could teachers possibly make informed decisions about what standards to cover for whole groups? They can't and won't. Students and teachers will be forced to bore everybody with 2 weeks of review - a rush through a hodgepodge of standards that will benefit no one. Want to reform and overhaul the system? That's great. These two weeks ain't that. This will be useless extra time seemingly designed solely to piss everybody off.
Posted by Gulf Coast Tiger
Ms Gulf Coast
Member since Jan 2004
18663 posts
Posted on 4/13/21 at 4:36 pm to
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Jay Are


I know a lot of teachers that got a lot of time off for this. It is what it is. I am not mad about it. They had to be paid and they couldn't go to work.
Posted by LSUFanHouston
NOLA
Member since Jul 2009
37093 posts
Posted on 4/13/21 at 5:20 pm to
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Math? The teachers are working 10 extra days, as per your post above. And because of your inability to read, you fail to acknowledge that I am working an extra 26 days a year, as I have stated in every post I mentioned this to you. But you want to word it as "1 extra day every two weeks". Yes, that's right. 26 more days a year. No extra pay. Give up dude.


My goodness, you are a stupid plant baw. Let's try this again.

You are working zero extra hours over the entire year. Your hours you are working are being spread over an extra 26 days. So yes, you are working an extra 26 days, but you are working zero extra hours. This is because for the other days you are working, you are working less each day than you were under 4 10's.

The teachers are working 10 extra days... but they have no reduction in the number of hours they are working each other day.

The teachers are working 80 more hours over the course of the year.

You are working 0 more hours.

How is this hard?
This post was edited on 4/13/21 at 5:22 pm
Posted by LSUFanHouston
NOLA
Member since Jul 2009
37093 posts
Posted on 4/13/21 at 5:21 pm to
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I'm assuming most people here aren't stupid enough to believe anything that squid idiot said earlier in this thread.


That's a bad assumption...
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