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re: Bought a lot with buried tree limbs

Posted on 12/20/17 at 7:42 am to
Posted by stout
Porte du Lafitte
Member since Sep 2006
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Posted on 12/20/17 at 7:42 am to
Newer subdivision or older? Did you buy from the developer?
Posted by whit
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2010
11080 posts
Posted on 12/20/17 at 7:42 am to
Am I the only one baffled as to why someone would bury a bunch of tree limbs?
Posted by stout
Porte du Lafitte
Member since Sep 2006
184684 posts
Posted on 12/20/17 at 7:44 am to
I have seen it happen

One contractor did it and built the house on top. The 3rd owner of that house like 23 years later had major slab issues and nothing they could do about it as they were out of warranty.
Posted by RougeDawg
Member since Jul 2016
7757 posts
Posted on 12/20/17 at 7:44 am to
Find the developer and threaten a lawsuit and complaining to the planning commission unless he pays to excavate and place fill. May not work, but most developers (assuming they will continue to do other subdivisions in the area) wouldn't want a reputation that any of their lots may have burn pits under them...bad for business.
Posted by OLDBEACHCOMBER
Member since Jan 2004
7621 posts
Posted on 12/20/17 at 7:45 am to
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Am I the only one baffled as to why someone would bury a bunch of tree limbs?


Unscrupulous land developers. I know one that did this and got caught. He and his insurance company were sued and lost.
Posted by RealityTiger
Geismar, LA
Member since Jan 2010
20543 posts
Posted on 12/20/17 at 7:46 am to
It would take three times the work to bury them than to burn them. I baffled by it as well. Seems like a fricking stupid thing to do.
Posted by whit
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2010
11080 posts
Posted on 12/20/17 at 7:47 am to
I’ve heard of people taking out stumps and not digging out the roots. Never heard of burying limbs. I guess if you can’t burn em, bury em
Posted by stout
Porte du Lafitte
Member since Sep 2006
184684 posts
Posted on 12/20/17 at 7:49 am to
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It would take three times the work to bury them than to burn them.


Permit issues, burn ban, etc would means it would cost to haul them off and dump them. That can cost money. Cheaper to bury in some cases.
Posted by MoarKilometers
Member since Apr 2015
21434 posts
Posted on 12/20/17 at 7:49 am to
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Since we are on slabs, why do we use red clay here in s.louisiana as fill but they use sand in NW Fl. Seems like sand would be cheaper than red clay.

Cheaper yes, but sand is not exactly known for its ability to be compacted. Footer walls cave in with ease. We use regular arse fill dirt in ne fl. I do occasionally see clay used for slab prep, but not super common. Drains like shite, so i wouldn't want it.
Posted by rmc
Truth or Consequences
Member since Sep 2004
27402 posts
Posted on 12/20/17 at 7:50 am to
Lol.
Posted by blueridgeTiger
Granbury, TX
Member since Jun 2004
22413 posts
Posted on 12/20/17 at 7:51 am to
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What would be due diligence, X-ray scanning a lot before purchasing?


Soil Engineering and Testing

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Soil testing, or a soil analysis, is usually required for building permits. During construction, the soil engineer may need to make further soil tests to make sure subsurface soil conditions are compatible with those observed in the initial investigation and modify the design recommendations as necessary. The soil engineer may also need to evaluate whether the construction is completed in compliance with the meaning and intent of the recommendations provided.
Posted by NYNolaguy1
Member since May 2011
21849 posts
Posted on 12/20/17 at 7:53 am to
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You didn’t do your due diligence and now looking for someone to blame it on?


Curious what you think should have been done here.

OP, a way around this would be to redsign the footing as post and pier, that way the house foundation presumably isnt resting on organic matter.
Posted by tigerbutt
Deep South
Member since Jun 2006
26451 posts
Posted on 12/20/17 at 7:54 am to
Neighbor had same problem. They had to tear entire driveway out 10 years after they built their house.
Posted by NYNolaguy1
Member since May 2011
21849 posts
Posted on 12/20/17 at 7:56 am to
Soil borings may or may not have helped, given the borings are usually inches wide, they could have easily missed any tree limbs buried.

A typical soil report would easily have missed this. If the OP had done a GPR scan, perhaps, but that is pretty rare.
Posted by Jack Daniel
Gold member
Member since Feb 2013
29720 posts
Posted on 12/20/17 at 8:03 am to
That’s just testing to ensure of proper soil type for building on. That’s not testing for objects buried in the soil.
Posted by the LSUSaint
Member since Nov 2009
15444 posts
Posted on 12/20/17 at 8:46 am to
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So I have a dumb question...what is bad about buried limbs?



Seriously? What could go wrong with building a house in too of rotting wood limbs? Other than total foundation failure after why got, not much.
Posted by Pectus
Internet
Member since Apr 2010
67302 posts
Posted on 12/20/17 at 8:48 am to
So why not just put a foundation in another spot?

I didn't realize this was uncultivated land.
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