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Boeing Sees Strong Potential for New ‘797’ Jet

Posted on 11/15/17 at 10:22 am
Posted by member12
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Posted on 11/15/17 at 10:22 am
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Boeing Sees Demand For '797' As Airbus' Dubai Airshow Drought May End

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Earlier this week, Ahmed Jazzar, Boeing's Saudi president, told Bloomberg that Saudi Arabian Airlines, the state-run carrier, would be a great fit for the plane.

"We like how it's shaping up," Kevin McAllister, head of Boeing Commercial planes, said of the midmarket jet over the weekend. "We're just down to a spot where we want to put some structure around getting the right business plan."

Boeing has been secretive about the jet, though a few details have emerged. Earlier this year, CEO Dennis Muilenburg confirmed that the new plane could seat roughly 250 passengers and have a range of 5,000 nautical miles.

The company also announced an order for four 777 freighters from Ethiopian Airlines in a deal valued at over $1.3 billion at list prices. Two of the planes were a commitment announced in June. The aircraft will be delivered in 2018 and 2019.

Boeing is dominating the Dubai show so far, after Dubai's Emirates airline announced a surprise 787 Dreamliner order. Analysts had widely expected Emirates to order more Airbus A380s.


Boeing's new MoM (middle of market) jet will compete with the Airbus A321 on the smaller end, and the Airbus A330 on the larger end. It will slot between the 737 and 787 in Boeing's lineup, taking place of the 757 and 767.

In their infinite wisdom, they decided that a new wide body was more ideal than bringing back the 757. United Airlines is supposedly influencing the design a lot.
Posted by Cosmo
glassman's guest house
Member since Oct 2003
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Posted on 11/15/17 at 10:24 am to
Emirates was by far the biggest A380 customer and they have implied they are done ordering them.

Switching to 777 and 787.
Posted by member12
Bob's Country Bunker
Member since May 2008
33146 posts
Posted on 11/15/17 at 10:25 am to
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Emirates was by far the biggest A380 customer and they have implied they are done ordering them.



I don't think the A380 airframe will be in production much longer unless they develop a cargo version.
Posted by upgrayedd
Lifting at Tobin's house
Member since Mar 2013
139231 posts
Posted on 11/15/17 at 10:26 am to
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In their infinite wisdom, they decided that a new wide body was more ideal than bringing back the 757. United Airlines is supposedly influencing the design a lot.

Wide body is definitely more efficient when it comes clubbing passengers and dragging them off the plane.
Posted by CuseTiger
Member since Jul 2013
9105 posts
Posted on 11/15/17 at 10:27 am to
They definitely need a replacement for the 757 with all the 757/767 retirements about to happen, hopefully this is it
Posted by NoBoBullDog
Member since Aug 2011
1533 posts
Posted on 11/15/17 at 10:45 am to
Welp....the 757 is a freaking Lexus in the skies, despite its age. One of my all time favs.
Posted by The Ostrich
Member since May 2009
2758 posts
Posted on 11/15/17 at 10:48 am to
Hopefully they do it right and not ship out more than half the production overseas like they did with the 787. shite ended up costing them like $22 billion more than it was supposed to cause of all the problems it had.
Posted by Janky
Team Primo
Member since Jun 2011
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Posted on 11/15/17 at 10:50 am to
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the 757 is a freaking Lexus in the skies


Love the sound of those RR engines.
Posted by upgrayedd
Lifting at Tobin's house
Member since Mar 2013
139231 posts
Posted on 11/15/17 at 10:51 am to
Didn't they have an issue with the batteries overheating?
Posted by Janky
Team Primo
Member since Jun 2011
35957 posts
Posted on 11/15/17 at 10:52 am to
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Didn't they have an issue with the batteries overheating?


That was samsung.
Posted by PearlJam
NotBeardEaves
Member since Aug 2014
13908 posts
Posted on 11/15/17 at 10:52 am to
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Kevin McAllister, head of Boeing Commercial planes
He's come a long way since catching the wet bandits.
This post was edited on 11/15/17 at 10:52 am
Posted by foshizzle
Washington DC metro
Member since Mar 2008
40599 posts
Posted on 11/15/17 at 11:02 am to
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That was samsung.


Also the 787.
Posted by The Ostrich
Member since May 2009
2758 posts
Posted on 11/15/17 at 11:15 am to
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Didn't they have an issue with the batteries overheating?

That was part of it. They shipped 70% of production overseas to multiple factories in china and the when they went to piece the planes together a bunch of the parts didn't fit together like they were supposed to. They also used different/cheaper material then they were supposed to that couldn't handle the heat coming from the battery which caused a bunch of the planes to catch fire. They fricked up big time with the 787.
Posted by upgrayedd
Lifting at Tobin's house
Member since Mar 2013
139231 posts
Posted on 11/15/17 at 11:17 am to
I remember talking with a guy who was an attorney for Boeing and asked him why they subbed out some of their manufacturing to China. He said a lot of the in house counsel were stunned by that decision as well.
Posted by Orange_and_Blur
Gainesville
Member since Nov 2017
644 posts
Posted on 11/15/17 at 11:19 am to
The only reason an 'Ahmed' builds a plane is to fly it into something.

No thanks, Boeing.

Get lost.
Posted by CarRamrod
Spurbury, VT
Member since Dec 2006
58631 posts
Posted on 11/15/17 at 11:19 am to
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Kevin McAllister, head of Boeing Commercial planes
He's come a long way since catching the wet bandits.

bravo
Posted by RedRifle
Austin/NO
Member since Dec 2013
8335 posts
Posted on 11/15/17 at 11:41 am to
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Kevin McAllister, head of Boeing Commercial planes
He's come a long way since catching the wet bandits.



He chose this career after he missed an American Airlines Boeing flight to Paris.
Posted by The Ostrich
Member since May 2009
2758 posts
Posted on 11/15/17 at 2:01 pm to
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I remember talking with a guy who was an attorney for Boeing and asked him why they subbed out some of their manufacturing to China. He said a lot of the in house counsel were stunned by that decision as well.

Yea they apparently did it try and cut cost from $10 billion to $6 billion but clearly didn't work out for the caused it ended up costing them $32 billion and stuck with a fleet of shitty airplanes.
Posted by kywildcatfanone
Wildcat Country!
Member since Oct 2012
141242 posts
Posted on 11/15/17 at 2:24 pm to
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He's come a long way since catching the wet bandits.


:golfclap:
Posted by jcaz
Laffy
Member since Aug 2014
19461 posts
Posted on 11/15/17 at 2:27 pm to
Lots of Asian carriers want their Boeing aircraft built in country. More jobs and lowers costs. But yes, shitier airplanes.

Lockheed is trying to build the F-16 in India.
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