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re: Boeing Sees Strong Potential for New ‘797’ Jet

Posted on 11/15/17 at 9:08 pm to
Posted by GeauxxxTigers23
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Posted on 11/15/17 at 9:08 pm to
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FlyDubai
frick that airline
Posted by jcaz
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Posted on 11/15/17 at 9:33 pm to
Terrible place to work from what I hear. Understaffed and overworked. Can't help but think fatigue is part of the cause for the Flight 981 crash in Russia
Posted by Orange_and_Blur
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Posted on 11/15/17 at 9:35 pm to
Plane of the future is long haul - fuel, not electric. Large capacity, fast travel, streamlined boarding, and perhaps even two plane formations with luggage on one that departs a bit earlier, lands a bit earlier and has luggage already waiting on passengers as they disembark.

There's not even a need to think about electric planes right now. Fool's errand.

it won't be long before major re-design of cities starts to take place. Mass transit will revamp how people get around within a city and a combination of mass transit / bus / train will connect nearby and regional destinations.

Planes will be cargo and long haul only.

I can't wait for cities to figure this out. Gainesville, FL for instance is probably the worst city I've ever seen for traffic management, road grid layout, etc. For 20 years now that city has not figured out how to synchronize traffic flow. You literally go from one side of San Diego to another at rush hour in less time than it takes to do the same in Gainesville. Re-design of cities will include how to transit from city to city. it will be glorious when it happens.

Trucks will get their own section of highway in the near future - why this hasn't been done already, I don't know. Truckers would move items much faster and safer if allowed to form mini-formations in designated lanes.

Mass transit will be public. Highways and regular driving will become privatized.
Posted by St Augustine
The Pauper of the Surf
Member since Mar 2006
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Posted on 11/15/17 at 9:36 pm to
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Kevin McAllister, head of Boeing Commercial planes

He's come a long way since catching the wet bandits

This post was edited on 11/15/17 at 9:37 pm
Posted by Stevo
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2004
12589 posts
Posted on 11/15/17 at 9:40 pm to
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Gainesville, FL for instance is probably the worst city I've ever seen for traffic management, road grid layout, etc. For 20 years now that city has not figured out how to synchronize traffic flow.


I will fight you over Baton Rouge having worse traffic management, grid, etc.
Posted by supadave3
Houston, TX
Member since Dec 2005
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Posted on 11/15/17 at 9:41 pm to
How in hell do y’all know all this about passenger airlines?
Posted by jcaz
Laffy
Member since Aug 2014
19461 posts
Posted on 11/16/17 at 12:21 am to
I work in aviation and everything about it interests me.
Posted by Guess
Down The Road
Member since Jun 2009
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Posted on 11/17/17 at 1:22 pm to
Truth be told, the c series sounds like a pretty decent Plane for what it's designed to do. Boeing may regret it's aggressive stance against it in the future, especially pertaining to Delta.
Posted by upgrayedd
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Member since Mar 2013
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Posted on 11/17/17 at 1:38 pm to
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they don't want to re-engine the A380

What do you mean by that?
Posted by jcaz
Laffy
Member since Aug 2014
19461 posts
Posted on 11/17/17 at 2:04 pm to
Newer, more efficient engines.
They did this with the A320 family and the A330 family.

The A380 guzzles fuel and even just a 5% reduction in fuel burn would be enough to justify Emirates ordering more.

Airbus would have to bear the cost of R&D on this which is not worth it if only one airline orders a few dozen.
A380 program will be cancelled within a few years.

Similar to the Concorde, there just isn't enough demand from the airlines for the jumbo jets to turn a profit.
Airlines prefer aircraft with 2 engines and between 250-375 seats. Which is why the A330neo, A350, and 787 family is doing so well.

Posted by MintBerry Crunch
Member since Nov 2010
6019 posts
Posted on 11/17/17 at 2:08 pm to
I always wondered what the little boy from home alone ended up doing with his life. I see he works at Boeing
Posted by upgrayedd
Lifting at Tobin's house
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Posted on 11/17/17 at 2:31 pm to
So why were they designing 4 engine planes when the industry was trending towards 2?

Will any 380's be cargo planes?
Posted by jcaz
Laffy
Member since Aug 2014
19461 posts
Posted on 11/17/17 at 3:15 pm to
Airbus and Boeing saw two different future strategies playing out with airline passenger travel.

Airbus envisioned large hubs worldwide requiring mass transport between major hubs. They went for quantity over quality. They wanted the largest airliner in the world. Having four engines was just part of having a jumbo.

Boeing saw the need for mid-capacity airliners on a variety of routes. Quality over quantity. The 787 was designed to be the most efficient airliner out there. It is.

FedEx initially ordered the A380 as a cargo variant but canceled them as delays came along in the program. No other plans as of now for cargo variants but it could be likely Airbus introduces a cargo conversion program once airlines start dropping them. Air cargo is booming!

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