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re: Bodycam and Ring video from guy shot by police supposedly defending home from burglar
Posted on 12/3/22 at 1:49 pm to LatinTiger30
Posted on 12/3/22 at 1:49 pm to LatinTiger30
Tell me again what an assault weapon again?
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Posted on 12/3/22 at 1:51 pm to upgrayedd
quote:
So the guy went into his house, noticed something fishy, grabbed his rifle, then went outside and fired into it?
I don't know, elapsed time isn't really spelled out. Seems like he was talking with a friend about stuff in the house being moved.
Stated elsewhere there was recent crime in the neighborhood.
Posted on 12/3/22 at 1:51 pm to upgrayedd
quote:Apparently.
So the guy went into his house, noticed something fishy, grabbed his rifle, then went outside and fired into it?
The poor decision he made was to leave his home.
If you are concerned and you have no dependents (kids, wife), barricade yourself in a defensible position with your firearm and contact the police.
Don’t be a hero.
This post was edited on 12/3/22 at 1:53 pm
Posted on 12/3/22 at 1:53 pm to fightin tigers
He's got a pretty decent rig too. Also seemed kind of odd that he would have the magnifier flipped up at such a short range.
Posted on 12/3/22 at 1:56 pm to Scruffy
quote:
Apparently.
The poor decision he made was to leave his home.
If you are concerned and you have no dependents (kids, wife), barricade yourself in a defensible position with your firearm and contact the police.
Don’t be a hero.
Eh, I wouldn't have a problem with him taking care of his own problem rather than the cops. If I really felt like I needed to leave, I'd leave the house clearing to the cops and definitely wouldn't be shooting back into my own house. That's why I'm wondering if this dude was mental or inebriated.
Posted on 12/3/22 at 1:58 pm to Diseasefreeforall
When cops become more concerned with saving a life than losing their own….
We may see change
This is Murder
It’s his house, he felt threatened, he can shoot as many times as he needs to neutralize that threat. Damn scared chicken shite cops man. Certain people just do not need to be in LE.
I didn’t and can’t watch it. Was he even facing the police?
We may see change
This is Murder
It’s his house, he felt threatened, he can shoot as many times as he needs to neutralize that threat. Damn scared chicken shite cops man. Certain people just do not need to be in LE.
I didn’t and can’t watch it. Was he even facing the police?
Posted on 12/3/22 at 2:00 pm to upgrayedd
quote:Neither would I.
Eh, I wouldn't have a problem with him taking care of his own problem rather than the cops.
My personnel view is to protect me and my wife. Everything else is lagniappe.
I would rather wait for it to come into my zone of fire than the other way around.
Others may disagree.
quote:Completely agree.
If I really felt like I needed to leave, I'd leave the house clearing to the cops and definitely wouldn't be shooting back into my own house.
I’m not saying I would clear my home.
Just saying that I would rather be in a defensible position within the home than outside of it.
This post was edited on 12/3/22 at 2:01 pm
Posted on 12/3/22 at 2:00 pm to This GUN for HIRE
quote:Then how can you come to this conclusion?
I didn’t and can’t watch it. Was he even facing the police?
quote:
When cops become more concerned with saving a life than losing their own….
We may see change
This is Murder
It’s his house, he felt threatened, he can shoot as many times as he needs to neutralize that threat. Damn scared chicken shite cops man. Certain people just do not need to be in LE.
Posted on 12/3/22 at 2:01 pm to Scruffy
quote:
Don’t be a hero.
Who is going to help you?
I have no problem with self defense scenarios. Cops show up later and write reports.
Posted on 12/3/22 at 2:03 pm to cubsfinger
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Tell me again what an assault weapon again?
I was gonna ignore it...but damn, it eats me too. There are assault weapons, but civilians aren't carrying many around.
No select fire, no assault weapon.
This post was edited on 12/3/22 at 2:06 pm
Posted on 12/3/22 at 2:03 pm to This GUN for HIRE
quote:
didn’t and can’t watch it. Was he even facing the police?
Standing under a porchlight looking out into the darkness. Cops were in a defensive position behind a fence, no lights, no sirens
He never saw them outside their vehicles
This post was edited on 12/3/22 at 2:04 pm
Posted on 12/3/22 at 2:10 pm to RogerTheShrubber
quote:Neither do I.
I have no problem with self defense scenarios.
You are misunderstanding my statement.
Everyone who wants should own a gun and know how to protect themselves.
I’m not ex-military. My mindset is purely defensive, unless I have to act in an aggressive manner.
If I thought someone was in my home, I would not try to clear it. I would either escape with the wife or create a defensible position. Currently, where our bedroom is located, I would hole up.
Posted on 12/3/22 at 2:12 pm to Eighteen
quote:
Raj had his Ring security camera on his porch because, without it, the police would have continued to lie about what happened that night.
100%.
This post was edited on 12/3/22 at 2:12 pm
Posted on 12/3/22 at 2:15 pm to Eighteen
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He claimed there was someone in his house (and told that to a neighbor)
he could have been right and the guy ran out another door prior to the “warning shots” or left after the cops got there. not sure if that was every investigated or how long the cops waited to clear the house after
Officers searched house and didn't find anyone but someone could have been inside and got out before the search.
Houses in that neighborhood are really densely clustered though. Firing a rifle indiscriminately could kill somebody in another home so it should be a last resort.
Posted on 12/3/22 at 2:15 pm to RogerTheShrubber
Not sure why you got the DV. That AR platform shoots the same as my .270 BAR. Nobody seems to realize this.
Posted on 12/3/22 at 2:19 pm to Scruffy
quote:
, I would not try to clear it
I'm old, kids are grown and got leukemia, frick yeah I'm not waiting around in the house to get shot or running.
I don't want to be a hero, I want to handle my shite.
Posted on 12/3/22 at 2:20 pm to cubsfinger
quote:
Not sure why you got the DV.
Just because its the OT. The crowd here is massively passive aggressive.
Posted on 12/3/22 at 2:21 pm to Scruffy
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Really not a good idea to do this.
He shouldn’t have been pacing outside his home with the rifle.
Whether he is or is not allowed to perform such an act isn’t the debate.
IMO, it isn’t a smart action to take.
If no family or guest inside a house I might also have made my way to front and closer to street, but before, during, or immediately after I am calling the cops. Firing back into house would be more if threat was continuing and coming out. I haven’t read anything on finding blood or evidence of break in yet, but If cops came in with the below info it does makes it a bad shot with how fast they fired without lights, sirens, announcement of police and then firing right after saying drop weapon.
quote:
The caller said the man seemed to be scared of something inside his own home before pointing his rifle inside and firing.
If the guy owned the house or there long enough to have license with the address they should have been able to call a name and maybe have a DL pic (at night with flood lights and hair all messed up he does look a little different than in other pics in articles but security camera stills at night and with other lights can sometimes look more distorted than video does or what cop could see).
This post was edited on 12/3/22 at 2:23 pm
Posted on 12/3/22 at 2:21 pm to RogerTheShrubber
quote:That is pretty much the opposite of my situation.
I'm old, kids are grown and got leukemia, frick yeah I'm not waiting around in the house to get shot or running.
Posted on 12/3/22 at 2:23 pm to Scruffy
I have 0 faith in law enforcement. Leave the house and you're chances are greater at getting nailed by the cops.
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