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re: Black students in Mississippi are now significantly outperforming black Wisconsin students

Posted on 5/7/25 at 10:57 am to
Posted by imjustafatkid
Alabama
Member since Dec 2011
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Posted on 5/7/25 at 10:57 am to
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You are assuming the grades aren't being puffed...


How stupid are you?
Posted by Adam Banks
District 5
Member since Sep 2009
36584 posts
Posted on 5/7/25 at 11:01 am to
He thinks a certain group is incapable of improvement and education.
Posted by imjustafatkid
Alabama
Member since Dec 2011
63048 posts
Posted on 5/7/25 at 11:05 am to
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He thinks a certain group is incapable of improvement and education.


Well, that's not totally incorrect, but I also don't think that's what he's saying at all. The way Mississippi did this is by failing kids if they can't read.

Much of that "can't read" piece is due to a culture that encourages children to test low in an effort to qualify for more government benefits.

I think he just doesn't trust the state of Mississippi in general.
Posted by pankReb
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Member since Mar 2009
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Posted on 5/7/25 at 12:32 pm to
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Yeah we've never heard something like this before and then discover its a bunch of bullshite.


We’ve been hearing about this for about 5 years now. Please link the bullshite.
Posted by pankReb
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Member since Mar 2009
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Posted on 5/7/25 at 12:34 pm to
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You’re the one deflecting from your take that numbers are cooked/inflated/fabricated, that this is some vast governmental conspiracy to *checks posts* prop up the states that are spending less per student, and to make the red states look better than the blue states.


It really is incredible to watch
Posted by deltadummy
Member since Mar 2025
1757 posts
Posted on 5/7/25 at 12:38 pm to
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Well since I always directly address the arguments, & don't come off like a clueless moron just stooping to ad hominem attacks, I'd say I'm "something".

You tell me...


Posted by pankReb
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Member since Mar 2009
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Posted on 5/7/25 at 12:41 pm to
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You must've failed fifth grade reading comprehension.



ad hominem!!!!!!!
Posted by TigerGman
Center of the Universe
Member since Sep 2006
13553 posts
Posted on 5/7/25 at 2:15 pm to
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ad hominem!!!!!!!


Nope. Go rewatch the video definition, reread my post and tell us how bad you screwed up your Erzatz Bazinga!

And I'll accept your apology when you give it.

Busy, may not be able to check back in till late tonight, but rest assured I will...

This post was edited on 5/7/25 at 2:34 pm
Posted by Camijoe
Member since May 2024
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Posted on 5/7/25 at 2:44 pm to
Hell yeah we is.
Posted by bulletprooftiger
Member since Aug 2006
2412 posts
Posted on 5/7/25 at 3:57 pm to
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But the biggest factor is LA and MS decided that every student was going to learn to read, no excuses.

The states whose schools are in freefall are the ones saying math and reading are white supremacist constructs.


You are correct. For some reason the extremists on both sides don't like the results. Progressives hate the results because they show that their public schools are serving their agenda rather than their students. Racists hate the results because they show that with the right methodology, blacks can learn.

AND to be clear, this is about reading at grade level. It isn't some Wakanda fantasy of racial supremacy. These results simply mean that people can learn if taught correctly.
Posted by TigerGman
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Member since Sep 2006
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Posted on 5/7/25 at 4:02 pm to
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And you have deluded yourself into believing you aren’t racist. You are making it clear that you think they are completely incapable of learning.


I'd give you credit for doing it intentionally, but in order for that to happen I'd have to assume you are being so obtuse intentionally.

You have yet to even address my key question: what changed since during the 1960 's that now require remedial hand holding in basic reading and math skills that parents of children as young as pre k historically taught or assisted the schools teaching their sons and daughters with?





Posted by LawyerBillboards
Member since Jun 2021
82 posts
Posted on 5/17/25 at 3:22 pm to
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well considering the N in NAEP stands for the word "National"....



Louisiana, for example, doesn't do the NEAP, and it is not clear that the LEAP is the same thing or truly equivalent. Just because they have similar acronyms doesn't mean they're the same.
Posted by Bayou
Boudin, LA
Member since Feb 2005
41744 posts
Posted on 5/17/25 at 3:24 pm to
I'm so sick of Black this, Black that. How is everyone ever going to get along with the continued isolation of races. Let's merge together, people!
Posted by TigerSooner
Member since Nov 2023
3634 posts
Posted on 5/17/25 at 9:26 pm to
What are the statistics on white students?
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