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re: Billy Graham RIP
Posted on 2/21/18 at 5:50 pm to Lsupimp
Posted on 2/21/18 at 5:50 pm to Lsupimp
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The attention this gets is going to surprise the under 40 crowd, but at one time he was ubiquitous, considered wise and compassionate to all, inherently connected to the Presidency as a counselor, and stood in stark contrast to all the professional film flam artists.
RIP Billy.
VERY well stated!
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Posted on 2/21/18 at 6:00 pm to JPinLondon
One of the best stories concerning Billy Graham that I have read was in Unbroken.
Unbroken is the story of Louis Zamperini and all you should read it if you have not. Zamperini was a juvenile delinquent that went on to become an Olympian, a navigator in WWII, a three year POW fo the Japanese and the subject of Laura Hillenbrand's great book "Unbroken".
When Zamperini returned to California after WWII his athletic career was ruined from the harsh treatment he endured as POW. He started drinking a lot--like a fifth a day-- smoked a lot and beat his wife. At wits end his wife suggested he attended a tent revival of Graham's. He went and that was the last time he drank--the last time he smoked and he became a model husband. He died at age 96 just a year or so ago.
Strong stuff there.
The book is about his life and story about Graham is at the end. The man faced death time and time again and finally redemption after being moved at a Graham revival.
Unbroken is the story of Louis Zamperini and all you should read it if you have not. Zamperini was a juvenile delinquent that went on to become an Olympian, a navigator in WWII, a three year POW fo the Japanese and the subject of Laura Hillenbrand's great book "Unbroken".
When Zamperini returned to California after WWII his athletic career was ruined from the harsh treatment he endured as POW. He started drinking a lot--like a fifth a day-- smoked a lot and beat his wife. At wits end his wife suggested he attended a tent revival of Graham's. He went and that was the last time he drank--the last time he smoked and he became a model husband. He died at age 96 just a year or so ago.
Strong stuff there.
The book is about his life and story about Graham is at the end. The man faced death time and time again and finally redemption after being moved at a Graham revival.
This post was edited on 2/21/18 at 6:24 pm
Posted on 2/21/18 at 6:04 pm to JPinLondon
Hes probably a top 100 influencial Americans of all time. Had the ear of heads od state, watched by millions on OTA television in his prime. Regardless of your beliefs, the man was an unassuming and humble titan.
Posted on 2/21/18 at 6:10 pm to RogerTheShrubber
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Regardless of your beliefs, the man was an unassuming and humble titan.
Agreed. He wasn't a Joel Osteen type.
Posted on 2/21/18 at 6:16 pm to Houma Sapien
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All televangelists will burn in hell, just so you know
Wouldn’t count on it. He was one of the good guys.
Posted on 2/21/18 at 6:20 pm to RogerTheShrubber
quote:He had a sense of humor, as depicted in the Woody Allen clip. He also appeared on Laugh-In!
Regardless of your beliefs, the man was an unassuming and humble titan
With Rowan and Martin:
With Ruth Buzzi:
With "Sock it to me!" girl Judy Carne:
Posted on 2/21/18 at 6:35 pm to Roger Klarvin
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Once you get past all the motivational speaking and feel good vibes, at the heart of his message and his entire life's purpose was a fantastical fiction. In the end, his entire existence was built on a myth.
Billy Graham once told a man who questioned the existence of God - "If you are right we both just die and there is nothing, but If I am right you could spend all eternity in a place called hell."
So Roger Klarvin, you may think you know the truth but none of us knows everything. Is it not possible that in the portion of truth you know nothing about- in that sir maybe the truth about God exists?
Before you spout off with your intellectualism of superiority- consider you may be wrong and the implications that follow
Posted on 2/21/18 at 6:41 pm to Roger Klarvin
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Roger Klarvin
You have a special place in Hell waiting for you.
Posted on 2/21/18 at 6:41 pm to el Gaucho
Had the most reverend Billy Graham been a Catholic, he would have been one of the greatest Saints. Reverend Graham was friends with many Catholic Popes and world leaders.
Posted on 2/21/18 at 6:48 pm to JBeam
Apparently he was anti Semitic. I don’t know if that’s true or not.
Posted on 2/21/18 at 7:24 pm to foj1981
Great man, legend. Stayed the course and never faltered. RIP.
Posted on 2/21/18 at 7:42 pm to 1BamaRTR
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Apparently he was anti Semitic. I don’t know if that’s true or not.
Anyone that has common sense is a little anti Semitic. He apologized for what he said but it was the truth. Other than that you can't say anything bad about the guy.
Posted on 2/21/18 at 9:52 pm to 756
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Billy Graham once told a man who questioned the existence of God - "If you are right we both just die and there is nothing, but If I am right you could spend all eternity in a place called hell."
So Roger Klarvin, you may think you know the truth but none of us knows everything. Is it not possible that in the portion of truth you know nothing about- in that sir maybe the truth about God exists?
Before you spout off with your intellectualism of superiority- consider you may be wrong and the implications that follow
An omnipotent deity cannot be duped, and true belief is not a choice. You either believe or you don't. Pascal's wager is thus a logical fallacy based upon the nonsensical premise that an all-knowing deity can be convinced by hollow platitudes.
I don't believe, cannot force myself too believe and everuthing I can objectively assess regarding reality is counter to the claims of monotheism. Belief for me would therefore have to be a supernatural intervention, and there's no point in worrying about that. It will either happen or it won't, and if it doesn't and God exists and insists on punishing me on that basis I'll be left to deal with that I suppose. It's silly to lose sleep over though.
Posted on 2/22/18 at 8:27 pm to Roger Klarvin
LINK
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he late Rev. Billy Graham, the Christian evangelist known as "America's Pastor," will lie in honor in the U.S. Capitol Rotunda next week.
Graham's body will be brought to the Capitol on Wed., Feb 28 where he will lie in honor until Thursday.
Members of the public and Capitol Hill community are invited to pay their respects to the late reverend while he lies in rest.
Graham is only the fourth person to lie in honor in the U.S. Capitol Rotunda. The three others were Rosa Parks in 2005 and the two Capitol police officers who died in the line of duty in 1998.
Upon the arrival of Graham’s casket, House Speaker Paul Ryan, R-Wis., and Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell, R-Ky., will take part in a bicameral service.
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The Secret Service says it is preparing for President Donald Trump to attend The Rev. Billy Graham's funeral next Friday. The preparations started yesterday and “came into place quickly,” according to a Secret Service public affairs representative who deferred us to the White House for confirmation of the President’s visit.
Posted on 2/22/18 at 8:32 pm to thedrumdoctor
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Aww damnit, I've been thinking this was Jimmy Swaggart all day.
How the hell do you get these two confused?
Posted on 2/22/18 at 8:36 pm to OweO
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How the hell do you get these two confused?
Posted on 2/22/18 at 8:46 pm to Roger Klarvin
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Despite clearly leaving a lasting legacy, one wonders what good men like him could have done in areas providing more objective good to the world.
I'm not antagonizing, but who are these men and women? The ones not driven by faith who create more objective good in the world?
Graham served and gave hope (via faith in Christ) to millions. Plenty of them probably did nothing at all, but I suspect he helped thousands become better husbands, wives, parents, friends, etc.
I don't believe you have to be a person of faith to do those things, but I also can't help but notice that people who leave this type of legacy frequently claim badges of faith, and seem to be driven by it. Vague and amorphous feelings of goodwill toward men and "doing good" are often fleeting and irresolute.
Posted on 2/22/18 at 8:59 pm to foj1981
Matthew 25:21
"His master replied, 'Well done, good and faithful servant! You have been faithful with a few things; I will put you in charge of many things. Come and share your master's happiness!'
"His master replied, 'Well done, good and faithful servant! You have been faithful with a few things; I will put you in charge of many things. Come and share your master's happiness!'
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