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re: Bill Nye is quite upset over Noah's Ark in Kentucky
Posted on 7/12/16 at 2:57 pm to TheCaterpillar
Posted on 7/12/16 at 2:57 pm to TheCaterpillar
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You gonna drive to the middle of no where Kentucky and pay $40 to walk around
Suggestions for Kentucky visitors that better represent God's splendor and doesn't involve filling the pockets of a false prophet:
Mammoth Cave
Natural Bridge at Red River Gorge
Cumberland Falls and it's Moonbow (now the only one in the world after an earthquake shifted Victoria Falls)
Posted on 7/12/16 at 3:00 pm to GeauxTigerTM
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What's a crusading atheist? Do you mean outspoken atheist?
No, I mean crusading, as in, actively attempting to impose his belief system on others, most often through ridicule. I'll meet you half way and say he's an atheistic evangelical. Is there anything more annoying than and evangelical?
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Yeah...I'm fine with that. As someone said earlier, this it exactly the problem we have with Islamism...a desire by the faithful to keep any and all discussion or argumentation about their beliefs out of the public forum. Nah...those days are over.
Uhh, actually the problem with Islamism is intolerance for differeng opinions on matters of personal spirituality; Nye displays a similiar intolerance for theists in his rhetoric to that of Muslims in regards to infidels.
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If we truly live in a free society then any and all ideas are subject to being debated and discussed. Just because adherents want them to be off limits can not and should not make them so.
No one is calling for him to be silenced, so what's your point? I wonder if Nye holds the same zeal for honest debate in regards to the AGW debate as you do?
Oh wait, no, Nye is the douchebag who thinks AGW deniers, or "heretics", should be prosecuted. But he's just trying to move us as a society towards open and free conversation right?
This post was edited on 7/12/16 at 3:09 pm
Posted on 7/12/16 at 3:03 pm to TheCaterpillar
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drive to the middle of no where Kentucky and pay $40
Why not? Once you've travelled that far to such an unappealing place, what else do you have to lose?
Posted on 7/12/16 at 3:05 pm to BluegrassBelle
Those are some awesome pictures. I wasn't aware that there was anything beautiful or scenic in Kentucky.
Posted on 7/12/16 at 3:08 pm to tarzana
Kentucky has a beautiful landscape and plenty to do if you're willing to get off your couch. Even Louisville has one of the nation's better park systems, designed by Fredrick Law Olmsted (who designed Central Park in NY).
Of course when the things portrayed in the media that represents your state is Kim Davis and an Ark with dinosaurs people tend to overlook that.
Of course when the things portrayed in the media that represents your state is Kim Davis and an Ark with dinosaurs people tend to overlook that.
Posted on 7/12/16 at 3:13 pm to BluegrassBelle
I have been to two of those. The bridge and the cave. I loved visiting both.
But next time I am in Kentucky I am going to pay $40 to go tour a 500ft long wooden vessel just because I want to see an awesome building project that is unique. I will enjoy the dinosaur models because I am interested in them and because I like replica models. I will eat there because I will be hungry. I will enjoy the rest of the grounds and whatever other attractions might be available.
I will probably enjoy the day and definitely won't give a frick what some douchebag atheist on the OT thinks about it.
But next time I am in Kentucky I am going to pay $40 to go tour a 500ft long wooden vessel just because I want to see an awesome building project that is unique. I will enjoy the dinosaur models because I am interested in them and because I like replica models. I will eat there because I will be hungry. I will enjoy the rest of the grounds and whatever other attractions might be available.
I will probably enjoy the day and definitely won't give a frick what some douchebag atheist on the OT thinks about it.
Posted on 7/12/16 at 3:13 pm to gamatt53
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The state analysis projected around 275k annual visitors while Ham himself was touting well over a million. Who do you think is wrong?
LINK
Ok, I'll play along, never mind the fact your link is an obviously heavily biased source. The "Friendly Atheist"? Come on now.
Anyway, according to your own source, this is what the attendance numbers will look like....
High end estimate
Low end estimate
So at $40 a head, on the high end this place at peak in year 3 will bring in about $26 million in ticket revenue. If the average person spends, let's say $20 in drinks, snacks, and/or souvenirs, that's another $13 million. So, according to the "friendly atheist" at it's peak around year 3 this place will bring in roughly $39 million annually. Taking the high estimate numbers, past year three the annual revenues will level out around $24 million annually.
If you take the low end, at it's peak this place will take in about $27 million annually and settle into $15 million annually in the years past that point.
And I'm not buying that the attendance will be as low as this "friendly atheist" guy claims. But for argument's sake, I'll say the actual numbers will be probably halfway between what the owner thinks and what this friendly atheist guy thinks. But that's still around 800,000 to 1,000,000 annual visitors. That puts this place bringing in between $48 million to $60 million annually.
Bottom line, even using your own "friendly atheist" numbers, I think they'll be just fine from a revenue standpoint.
(BTW, this park as other attractions which will also generate revenue. And it looks like there are plans for future expansion which in turn will likewise generate even more revenue.)
LINK
Posted on 7/12/16 at 3:15 pm to tarzana
What did you think prior to seeing the pictures? Did you think that Kentucky was a concrete parking lot devoid of nature?
Posted on 7/12/16 at 3:16 pm to Powerman
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Dinosaurs on an ark

Posted on 7/12/16 at 3:17 pm to Darth_Vader
I love this image:


This post was edited on 7/12/16 at 3:19 pm
Posted on 7/12/16 at 3:18 pm to tarzana
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I wasn't aware that there was anything beautiful or scenic in Kentucky
Someone doesn't drink Bourbon.
The Rick houses at Woodford is one of the most beautiful sites you can see
Posted on 7/12/16 at 3:19 pm to ManBearTiger
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No, I mean crusading, as in, actively attempting to impose his belief system on others, most often through ridicule.
Then you're wrong about both. Neither are looking to impose anything...both are attempting the religious from imposing their beliefs. No one is forcing non-belief on anyone. There's a massive difference.
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Uhh, actually the problem with Islamism is intolerance for differeng opinions on matters of personal spirituality;
No...the problem with Islam is that it does not allow for differing opinions on matters of spirituality. Islam is the final word. Much like fundamentalists in Christianity and Judaism, they are not misreading their text...they're simply not massaging it into modernity. And like fundamentalists everywhere, they don't like being told that they are wrong. Case in point...Pope John Paul II did not side with Salman Rushdie when he was receiving death threats form having written The Satanic Verses...he sided with those who WERE OFFENDED!
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No one is calling for him to be silenced, so what's your point?
Hamm's message needs to be discussed in the open. More often than not when non religious people (oddly enough we seem to be the only ones who will speak loudly about this despite more mainstream religious people ALSO thinking this is horseshite) step into this area to discuss this guys like you start spouting about "crusading atheists." Sounds like a desire to silence debate if you ask me...
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Oh wait, no, Nye is the douchebag who thinks AGW deniers, or "heretics", should be prosecuted.
Yeah...he never said that, asshat. You can actually hear him...in his own words...say what he thinks. Or, you can allow someone else to tell you what he thinks...whatever works for you.
LINK
Posted on 7/12/16 at 3:20 pm to GetCocky11
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I care because this replica spreads ignorance and is harmful.
wow dude. do you need another tampon for that bleeding vagina?

Posted on 7/12/16 at 3:20 pm to Darth_Vader
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Bottom line, even using your own "friendly atheist" numbers, I think they'll be just fine from a revenue standpoint.
Those numbers/graphs come directly from a State funded impact analysis. Did you just gloss over that part? The author of that article didn't come up with those numbers you dolt
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But it turns out that when you’re trying to get government funding for your theme park, the state needs someone to do an analysis of how it would effect employment and the economy. They need to know if your park is eligible for grants. For that reason, state officials hired a group called Hunden Strategic Partners, LLC to conduct an analysis.
Posted on 7/12/16 at 3:21 pm to Breesus
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Someone doesn't drink Bourbon
I'm anxious for Castle and Key to be open for tours. It's the Old Taylor "Castle" Distillery and they've saved some of the old stone architecture.

This post was edited on 7/12/16 at 3:24 pm
Posted on 7/12/16 at 3:22 pm to Darth_Vader
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But for argument's sake, I'll say the actual numbers will be probably halfway between what the owner thinks and what this friendly atheist guy thinks
you mean the state?
Posted on 7/12/16 at 3:25 pm to Darth_Vader
A museum, a zoo, and a zip line course as well as a two story restaurant are part of Phase I. The acreage is massive for a theme park and will continue to add attractions.
It will eventually be a massive theme park with a resort/resorts, water park, rides, golf course, etc.. Most people who visit there in 30 years will treat it as a destination vacation location. Most will look at it as they do Disney World, that is, as a fantasyland rife with a ton of crap to do. It is actually marketing genius regardless of ones view on the Bible.
It will eventually be a massive theme park with a resort/resorts, water park, rides, golf course, etc.. Most people who visit there in 30 years will treat it as a destination vacation location. Most will look at it as they do Disney World, that is, as a fantasyland rife with a ton of crap to do. It is actually marketing genius regardless of ones view on the Bible.
Posted on 7/12/16 at 3:30 pm to Darth_Vader
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800,000 to 1,000,000 annual visitors
2,500 per day? GTFOH.
Posted on 7/12/16 at 3:35 pm to Dick Leverage
Right, it may be marketing genius, but I personally think it's shitty to spread ridiculous beliefs so you can get rich.
Posted on 7/12/16 at 3:36 pm to Dick Leverage
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A museum, a zoo, and a zip line course as well as a two story restaurant are part of Phase I. The acreage is massive for a theme park and will continue to add attractions.
It will eventually be a massive theme park with a resort/resorts, water park, rides, golf course, etc.. Most people who visit there in 30 years will treat it as a destination vacation location. Most will look at it as they do Disney World, that is, as a fantasyland rife with a ton of crap to do. It is actually marketing genius regardless of ones view on the Bible.
Where is the money going to come from for all that expansion? Private financing? If it would such a profitable concept and "marketing genius" they wouldn't have had to rely on public financing to build the thing in the first place
This post was edited on 7/12/16 at 3:38 pm
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