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BIL trying to figure out if he should get a degree
Posted on 12/27/22 at 1:33 pm
Posted on 12/27/22 at 1:33 pm
My BIL is in for the holidays and we were talking about work stuff and he says he's trying to figure out if he should get a degree.
It'd likely be in business administration or marketing, something like that just to kind of check that box.
He has a pretty good position now and a decent resume with several management roles (actual business experience, not like managing fast food or a dollar store in high school). He's somewhat intelligent and well spoken, he says he interviews well and that his current position "preferred" a bachelor's yet he still was hired.
He and my sister have no kids and are doing pretty well financially so it wouldn't be a huge deal for him to go at night or online if he were to do so.
He's 30 if that matters, not really in outside sales but a lot of his experience lines up with territory management (established client relationship) type roles.
Is it worth getting a degree in something vague like business administration just to check that box on an application these days?
It'd likely be in business administration or marketing, something like that just to kind of check that box.
He has a pretty good position now and a decent resume with several management roles (actual business experience, not like managing fast food or a dollar store in high school). He's somewhat intelligent and well spoken, he says he interviews well and that his current position "preferred" a bachelor's yet he still was hired.
He and my sister have no kids and are doing pretty well financially so it wouldn't be a huge deal for him to go at night or online if he were to do so.
He's 30 if that matters, not really in outside sales but a lot of his experience lines up with territory management (established client relationship) type roles.
Is it worth getting a degree in something vague like business administration just to check that box on an application these days?
30
Posted on 12/27/22 at 1:35 pm to SidewalkTiger
Gay and Lesbian Studies for the win
This post was edited on 12/27/22 at 1:35 pm
Posted on 12/27/22 at 1:35 pm to SidewalkTiger
It is never a bad thing to have a business degree.
Posted on 12/27/22 at 1:36 pm to SidewalkTiger
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He's 30 if that matters
I would never waste time on 130 credit hours that doesn't lead to a defined skill/trade/certification at that age. It's a waste.
That time was lagniappe in his 20s to waste on junk degrees. I know. I have one.
Posted on 12/27/22 at 1:36 pm to chinhoyang
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Gay and Lesbian Studies for the win
I know that was meant as a joke but that would get you an in to my company right now
Posted on 12/27/22 at 1:37 pm to SidewalkTiger
I always suggest people get a degree if for nothing else but the pride you receive in obtaining one, and it's something a company can never hold against you.
There are some very legitimate online programs now that are on par with in-person courses. If going the online route, go to a university with a legitimate physical presence. Don't get a degree from some bullshite online degree mill.
There are some very legitimate online programs now that are on par with in-person courses. If going the online route, go to a university with a legitimate physical presence. Don't get a degree from some bullshite online degree mill.
Posted on 12/27/22 at 1:37 pm to DiamondDog
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That time was lagniappe in his 20s to waste on junk degrees. I know. I have one.
Same.
Journalism for me
Posted on 12/27/22 at 1:38 pm to SidewalkTiger
I have been on the hiring side with "bachelors preferred"... I did not care about the degree and HR just ran through whoever you picked. I was also on the side of HR sending me someone to work for me just because they had a degree but no relevant experience and they mostly turned out awful.
A degree can open doors but IMO a Business administration or marketing degree is pretty much worthless.
A degree can open doors but IMO a Business administration or marketing degree is pretty much worthless.
Posted on 12/27/22 at 1:38 pm to SidewalkTiger
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Same.
Journalism for me
Posted on 12/27/22 at 1:39 pm to SidewalkTiger
Does he have any credits or would he be starting from zero? The latter would be tough but bows the time to do it if he’s going to do so.
Posted on 12/27/22 at 1:39 pm to SidewalkTiger
frick, wish I could go back to being 16 knowing what I know now.
Id be in my hottub..soulmate..etc..
Id be in my hottub..soulmate..etc..
This post was edited on 12/27/22 at 1:40 pm
Posted on 12/27/22 at 1:40 pm to SidewalkTiger
He really needs to have an honest discussion with himself on what his goals are if the degree will help him get there.
There are grants and stuff that help adults go back. A lot of companies pay for school. Maybe he should start looking for jobs he wants and see the requirements.
There are grants and stuff that help adults go back. A lot of companies pay for school. Maybe he should start looking for jobs he wants and see the requirements.
Posted on 12/27/22 at 1:40 pm to armsdealer
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A degree can open doors but IMO a Business administration or marketing degree is pretty much worthless.
there's a shite load of jobs at my company starting in the low six figures that require a bachelor's, doesn't really matter what in for a lot of the positions
Posted on 12/27/22 at 1:40 pm to 777Tiger
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I know that was meant as a joke but that would get you an in to my company right now
the best jokes are the ones with a modicum of truth
Posted on 12/27/22 at 1:41 pm to SidewalkTiger
If he’s going to continue working for larger companies, yes he should do it. That’s a big check Mark to go along with his others. He might not even be looked at for certain jobs without it, even having all the real world experience. It’s dumb but it’s that way a lot of places.
Posted on 12/27/22 at 1:41 pm to dirtsandwich
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Does he have any credits or would he be starting from zero? The latter would be tough but bows the time to do it if he’s going to do so.
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That's his thought process, wants to do it now if he's going to do it.
Just doesn't know if it's worth the time, effort, and money.
Posted on 12/27/22 at 1:42 pm to chinhoyang
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the best jokes are the ones with a modicum of truth
to the point where it's no longer a joke
Posted on 12/27/22 at 1:42 pm to SidewalkTiger
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Is it worth getting a degree in something vague like business administration just to check that box on an application these days?
Tell him to check that box without a degree
Posted on 12/27/22 at 1:42 pm to SidewalkTiger
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He has a pretty good position now and a decent resume with several management roles (actual business experience, not like managing fast food or a dollar store in high school). He's somewhat intelligent and well spoken, he says he interviews well and that his current position "preferred" a bachelor's yet he still was hired.
Then why does he feel he needs a degree? Is there a position higher than what he has that he can't officially obtain without one? Or is there concern that if he tries to leave the business for something else that not having the degree to check the box will hold him back?
If I didn't need the degrees I have to do what I do, I wouldn't have gotten at least two of them.
Posted on 12/27/22 at 1:43 pm to SidewalkTiger
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just to check that box on an application these days?
Hard to understand this mindset, especially for an investment of $50-100k of real money, time, effort.
Treat a degree like the investment it is and will pay dividends for a very long time. Coincidentally, a business degree will teach this.
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