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re: Biker Shootout at the Twin Peaks in Waco, TX

Posted on 5/21/15 at 12:30 pm to
Posted by Darth_Vader
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Posted on 5/21/15 at 12:30 pm to
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Yep I'll drink a couple for you and Darth at the Hog Pen tomorrow. :cheers: :cheers: :cheers: :cheers:


Stay safe and keep the shiny side up. :cheers:
Posted by N2cars
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Posted on 5/21/15 at 12:31 pm to
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All I can say is I hope a lot if those bikes are financed or


But they'll "drop the charges".
Posted by Darth_Vader
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Posted on 5/21/15 at 12:46 pm to
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But they'll "drop the charges".


I'm not 100% clear on this, but isn't true that even if the charges are dropped and the people are cleared of any crime, the cops can still keep & sell these people's bikes under the "civil-forfeiture" laws?
This post was edited on 5/21/15 at 12:47 pm
Posted by lsu480
Downtown Scottsdale
Member since Oct 2007
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Posted on 5/21/15 at 12:51 pm to
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I'm not 100% clear on this, but isn't true that even if the charges are dropped and the people are cleared of any crime, the cops can still keep & sell these people's bikes under the "civil-forfeiture" laws?



Correct. They don't even need to charge anyone with a crime to take their stuff.
Posted by Tiger Ryno
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Posted on 5/21/15 at 12:52 pm to
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Look, I like you. But you're coming off as an arse and a try hard. I get it, you want to fit in with the cool kid clique that trolls me. But just stop, you're making an arse of yourself. And they're never going to accept you into their clique anyway no matter how hard you try.


Lulz. you think I want to be a part of some clique on here? you know me better than that. I like you too and have defended you many times. I think you are a great poster, but I can't side with you on this one. gangs of any kind are not good for society whether on bikes or riding around in impalas in the hood.

I have not personally attacked you, just trying to get you to see the light. I have nothing against guys who ride Harleys as I have many friends who do but I have no tolerance for organized criminal organizations.
Posted by N2cars
Member since Feb 2008
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Posted on 5/21/15 at 12:56 pm to
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I'm not 100% clear on this, but isn't true that even if the charges are dropped and the people are cleared of any crime, the cops can still keep & sell these people's bikes under the "civil-forfeiture" laws?


You are 100% correct.

You have to hire an attorney to get your property back.

NOPD loves to steal guns using this tactic. Louisiana LE as whole is an embarrassment in this regard.
Posted by Darth_Vader
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Posted on 5/21/15 at 12:57 pm to
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Lulz. you think I want to be a part of some clique on here? you know me better than that. I like you too and have defended you many times. I think you are a great poster, but I can't side with you on this one. gangs of any kind are not good for society whether on bikes or riding around in impalas in the hood.

I have not personally attacked you, just trying to get you to see the light. I have nothing against guys who ride Harleys as I have many friends who do but I have no tolerance for organized criminal organizations.



I'm not defending any criminals and have even spoke out in this thread against the criminal elements of the MC world. Trust me, I have no love for them either.
Posted by Darth_Vader
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Posted on 5/21/15 at 12:58 pm to
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Correct. They don't even need to charge anyone with a crime to take their stuff.



If I were a betting man, I'd say not a single one of these bikers will see their bikes again. And that is beyond fricked up.
Posted by Tiger Ryno
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Posted on 5/21/15 at 12:59 pm to
fair enough, I just think it would be hard to be a part of a group that I know has those elements in them and that kind of history.
Posted by Agforlife
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Member since Nov 2012
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Posted on 5/21/15 at 1:07 pm to
If the bikes have bank leins on them they will be returned. If they have clear titles they are gone. If they are not in the name of the individual who was riding it, it will be returned ie: Joe Blow was riding his father John Blow's bike as long as John Blow wasn't there.







At least this is what I have found to be true in my former life.
Posted by Darth_Vader
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Posted on 5/21/15 at 1:12 pm to
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If the bikes have bank leins on them they will be returned. If they have clear titles they are gone. If they are not in the name of the individual who was riding it, it will be returned ie: Joe Blow was riding his father John Blow's bike as long as John Blow wasn't there.


I regularly attend COC meetings and have for years. If this happened in Waco, it could happen anywhere. The thought that attending the next COC meeting could mean I'd either end up dead, in the hospital, or jail and have my motorcycle stolen by the police when my only crime is attending a meeting is truly terrifying.
Posted by lsu480
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Member since Oct 2007
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Posted on 5/21/15 at 1:15 pm to
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If the bikes have bank leins on them they will be returned. If they have clear titles they are gone. If they are not in the name of the individual who was riding it, it will be returned ie: Joe Blow was riding his father John Blow's bike as long as John Blow wasn't there.



Not true
Posted by Agforlife
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Member since Nov 2012
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Posted on 5/21/15 at 1:17 pm to
Man I hate to say it but since you wear a patch (non 1% for the people who don't know) I'd put my assets into another's name or a holding company, just sayin.
Posted by Agforlife
Somewhere in the Brazos Valley
Member since Nov 2012
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Posted on 5/21/15 at 1:18 pm to
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Not true




Maybe not, just relating my experiences with it from the past here in Texas.
Posted by lsu480
Downtown Scottsdale
Member since Oct 2007
92903 posts
Posted on 5/21/15 at 1:19 pm to
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Man I hate to say it but since you wear a patch (non 1% for the people who don't know) I'd put my assets into another's name or a holding company, just sayin.



I don't know why you think that matters. If they THINK the property was used in the commision of a crime they will take it, it has nothing to do with who the owner is.
Posted by Armymann50
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Member since Sep 2011
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Posted on 5/21/15 at 1:19 pm to
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I'm not a biker. I just love to ride bikes sometimes. Probably logged more miles than most of those punks.
STFU go make another alter and prentend to be someone your not. Sound more like a dipshit.
Posted by N2cars
Member since Feb 2008
39665 posts
Posted on 5/21/15 at 1:20 pm to
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ot true


He's pretty accurate. Lienholders take precedence.

However, the thieves can still keep the bikes, they just don't do it as often. That's generally b/c they can't get clear title to resell.
Posted by N2cars
Member since Feb 2008
39665 posts
Posted on 5/21/15 at 1:22 pm to
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If they THINK the property was used in the commision of a crime they will take it, it has nothing to do with who the owner is.


Yes, but they will return it to the rightful owner. (lienholder)

You'll never see your guns, cash, TV and anything else they can steal w/o a lawyer.
Posted by lsu480
Downtown Scottsdale
Member since Oct 2007
92903 posts
Posted on 5/21/15 at 1:23 pm to
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He's pretty accurate. Lienholders take precedence.



They do but the cops can sell the bikes, pay off the lienholders and keep the difference. Also, if the bike was in their fathers name it can still be seized.
Posted by SabiDojo
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Posted on 5/21/15 at 1:24 pm to
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