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re: Best video yet of Delta airplane crashing in Canada and flipping

Posted on 2/19/25 at 8:44 am to
Posted by 777Tiger
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Posted on 2/19/25 at 8:44 am to
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Most every business really


can’t speak for other industries but I’ve been very closely involved with the hiring at my company and others in the industry for years and the bias is incredible
Posted by FeauxPaw
BRuh
Member since Sep 2015
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Posted on 2/19/25 at 8:45 am to
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Again, the only people who do worry about it are racists, misogynists and homophobes.....and anyone who understands that merit has never played much of a role in deciding who was hired or educated in this or any other nation.


Explain the emergence and persistent existence of the Scholastic Aptitude Test to me right now.
Posted by TDTOM
Member since Jan 2021
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Posted on 2/19/25 at 8:45 am to
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What the frick?


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AwgustaDawg


Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
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Posted on 2/19/25 at 8:49 am to
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that merit has never played much of a role in deciding who was hired or educated in this or any other nation.


Perpetual victimhood right there. You've nailed being a victim, dude.

Your own bias dictates your shitty beliefs.
Posted by AwgustaDawg
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Posted on 2/19/25 at 8:58 am to
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Literally any minority hire for these people is DEI.

In their minds the only male that is capable is white.



It is really revealing yet not surprising to find sooooooooo many new found devotees or merit. Modern western civilization has been around about 525 years or so. Some form of "DEI" has only existed about 68 of those 525 years. About 87% of the time modern western civilization has existed merit played NO role in decision making as far as hiring or education or training or opportunity was concerned....only the connected and affluent were educated, only the connected were hired and anyone not a male and white was shite out of luck. That has changed slightly in the last 70 years or so....and you would think, listening to white men, that it had meant the end of civilization as we know it. Its hard on folks when they have to rely on merit LOL.....
Posted by AwgustaDawg
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Posted on 2/19/25 at 8:59 am to
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Perpetual victimhood right there. You've nailed being a victim, dude.

Your own bias dictates your shitty beliefs.



So tell us an era where merit was used to educate people my friend.
Posted by HeadCall
Member since Feb 2025
1809 posts
Posted on 2/19/25 at 9:01 am to
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It is really revealing yet not surprising to find sooooooooo many new found devotees or merit. Modern western civilization has been around about 525 years or so. Some form of "DEI" has only existed about 68 of those 525 years. About 87% of the time modern western civilization has existed merit played NO role in decision making as far as hiring or education or training or opportunity was concerned....only the connected and affluent were educated, only the connected were hired and anyone not a male and white was shite out of luck. That has changed slightly in the last 70 years or so....and you would think, listening to white men, that it had meant the end of civilization as we know it. Its hard on folks when they have to rely on merit LOL.....



Make sure you do some stretching after you unwrap yourself out of this pretzel.
Posted by baldona
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Member since Feb 2016
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Posted on 2/19/25 at 9:03 am to
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It is really revealing yet not surprising to find sooooooooo many new found devotees or merit. Modern western civilization has been around about 525 years or so. Some form of "DEI" has only existed about 68 of those 525 years. About 87% of the time modern western civilization has existed merit played NO role in decision making as far as hiring or education or training or opportunity was concerned....only the connected and affluent were educated, only the connected were hired and anyone not a male and white was shite out of luck. That has changed slightly in the last 70 years or so....and you would think, listening to white men, that it had meant the end of civilization as we know it. Its hard on folks when they have to rely on merit LOL.....


Call me whatever you want, but if you are choosing a black female lesbian heart surgeon over a white guy to save your life I'd call you an imbecile.

Part of the reason that merit has more recently become an option is because of competition. In the past there was almost none. If you needed a doctor, you didn't have a choice you went to the only one in town. Now, you can choose your doctor with many options. You are trying to take something beyond face value that sometimes just needs to be taken at face value.
Posted by AwgustaDawg
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Posted on 2/19/25 at 9:11 am to
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Here’s how hiring works in the airlines.

Say Delta’s minimum flight time requirements are 1500 hours of flight time but in reality to be competitive you need to be around 3000 or so.

However, Delta will at the very least interview and probably hire every minority and women who has 1500 hours whereas a white guy wont even get a serious look until he has more experience. Or if a white guy with 1500 hours and women with 1500 hours and all other things being equal such as quality of flight time, education level and the like, are both up for the position, the woman is getting hired over the man 10 times out of 10.



So when did this start? Keep in mind that air traffic safety has doubled every decade since 1960 when the first black man was hired as a commercial airline pilot in 1964.

Why does Delta set the minimum at 1500 hours? Is it within the possibility that Delta, with a fricking shite ton of money invested in infrastructure and airplanes and training, may be, I don't know, in a better position to determine who is qualified and the best candidate for the job?

What you are suggesting is Delta is placing the flying consumer at risk, their equipment at risk and their very business at risk to hire a woman instead of a man....and in doing so are a major player in an industry where safety has doubled every decade since the decade when the first black man was hired in the industry as a pilot? If what so many of you are suggesting is indeed true then thank goodness for the DEI hires....it is far safer to fly today than it was when the only merit needed to fly a plane as being a white male with some experience....now that people other than white males have been hired it is simply safer to fly.
Posted by LCA131
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Member since Feb 2008
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Posted on 2/19/25 at 9:13 am to
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So when did this start? Keep in mind that air traffic safety has doubled every decade since 1960 when the first black man was hired as a commercial airline pilot in 1964.

Why does Delta set the minimum at 1500 hours? Is it within the possibility that Delta, with a fricking shite ton of money invested in infrastructure and airplanes and training, may be, I don't know, in a better position to determine who is qualified and the best candidate for the job?

What you are suggesting is Delta is placing the flying consumer at risk, their equipment at risk and their very business at risk to hire a woman instead of a man....and in doing so are a major player in an industry where safety has doubled every decade since the decade when the first black man was hired in the industry as a pilot? If what so many of you are suggesting is indeed true then thank goodness for the DEI hires....it is far safer to fly today than it was when the only merit needed to fly a plane as being a white male with some experience....now that people other than white males have been hired it is simply safer to fly.


When you copy and paste all these lengthy answers of yours, and almost every one of your answers is lengthy, why do you not at least attribute the source?
Posted by AwgustaDawg
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Member since Jan 2023
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Posted on 2/19/25 at 9:14 am to
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Call me whatever you want, but if you are choosing a black female lesbian heart surgeon over a white guy to save your life I'd call you an imbecile.

Part of the reason that merit has more recently become an option is because of competition. In the past there was almost none. If you needed a doctor, you didn't have a choice you went to the only one in town. Now, you can choose your doctor with many options. You are trying to take something beyond face value that sometimes just needs to be taken at face value.



I would say that you simply stating that it would better to go with the white guy simply because he is a white guy is a fricking idiotic stand to take. Being a white guy is no more indicative of being qualified to do heart surgery than being a black lesbian. I don't have to call you anything, you have pretty well self identified as a racist, a homophobe and a mysognisit by suggesting skin color and sexual preference automatically and without question indicates qualification.
Posted by HeadCall
Member since Feb 2025
1809 posts
Posted on 2/19/25 at 9:17 am to
Better equipment, better maintenance and better procedures and training put in place are the main drivers behind the increase in safety, not the gender or racial makeup of the crews.

That doesn’t change the fact that women and minorities are given a leg up over white men when it comes to hiring and even passing training. Which is inherently sexist and racist. So what you’re saying is that it’s okay to hire based on sex and race which means it must’ve been okay to discriminate against women and minorities in favor of white men.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
281843 posts
Posted on 2/19/25 at 9:17 am to
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it is far safer to fly today than it was when the only merit needed to fly a plane as being a white male with some experience....now that people other than white males have been hired it is simply safer to fly.



Primarily due to technology, Slick.

I see you favor credentialism (making average people feel better about themselves) to actual experience.

The Competency fade is very real. Its not so much due to "DEI" as it is Covid shutdowns and the struggle to find competent employees.

You can cry all you want, but the competency crisis is very real and its not limited to aviation.
Posted by Cosmo
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Member since Oct 2003
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Posted on 2/19/25 at 9:17 am to
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anyone who understands that merit has never played much of a role in deciding who was hired or educated in this or any other nation.


Damn your brain is completely destroyed
Posted by hottub
Member since Dec 2012
3595 posts
Posted on 2/19/25 at 9:18 am to
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Why does Delta set the minimum at 1500 hours?


FAA minimums for unrestricted ATP.

To all your gibberish and safety point, technology and CRM advancements are responsible for the increase in safety.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
281843 posts
Posted on 2/19/25 at 9:19 am to
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Damn your brain is completely destroyed


He;s gotta be a trust funder, no way he's lived this long under his own competency
Posted by Weekend Warrior79
Member since Aug 2014
19004 posts
Posted on 2/19/25 at 9:25 am to
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Does the Coulter Rule apply to aircraft incidents?

Depends on how long it takes them to identify the pilot(s), or if they identify everyone but the primary one behind the controls.
Posted by TDTOM
Member since Jan 2021
20893 posts
Posted on 2/19/25 at 9:31 am to
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racist, a homophobe and a mysognisit


You do realize these words have lost all meaning and power, right?
Posted by YStar
Member since Mar 2013
17881 posts
Posted on 2/19/25 at 9:39 am to
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Perpetual victimhood right there. You've nailed being a victim, dude.



That is literally this entire forum.

Any time a minority is hired you guys automatically say it's DEI because in your minds no one is qualified unless they look just like you.

Never seen so many high amounts of victims in my life.... well outside of white and black liberal women. Those liberals edge you guys out
Posted by AwgustaDawg
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Member since Jan 2023
11184 posts
Posted on 2/19/25 at 9:40 am to
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You do realize these words have lost all meaning and power, right?



Then there ain't no problem using them.....
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