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re: before you applaud the termination of the officer
Posted on 10/29/15 at 12:54 pm to Geaux23
Posted on 10/29/15 at 12:54 pm to Geaux23
I still have no idea how everyone else in the situation was so calm.
I honestly need more context to the situation than what that short video gives me.
I honestly need more context to the situation than what that short video gives me.
This post was edited on 10/29/15 at 12:57 pm
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Posted on 10/29/15 at 1:01 pm to Geaux23
Public schools
Posted on 10/29/15 at 1:02 pm to bayourougebengal
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what exactly should be their next course of action?
Continue with class while having the principle's office write up detention. After class the student will obviously want to leave, then have the police officer serve the student with the detention papers. Student has a choice of in school detention for the rest of the semester or suspension/expulsion.
Posted on 10/29/15 at 1:07 pm to SamuelClemens
Having worked in an alternative school, I would start cutting privileges right away. Usually kid gets angry and leaves. Comes back later and tries to negotiate. If that doesn't work, they would go to the administration and unfortunately get their way.
Posted on 10/29/15 at 1:08 pm to Duckie
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I still have no idea how everyone else in the situation was so calm.
Because in the world where these kids live, this type of confrontation is a daily occurrence.
A buddy of mine was a BRPD patrol officer and told me of a time they went on a domestic violence stabbing. They could hear the fight so they kicked the front door and there were four kids sitting on the floor watching cartoons. The kids didn't move and just pointed towards the kitchen. He went into the kitchen and the mom was stabbing the Baby Daddy. Blood everywhere and EMS transports the guy off. Kids never moved from in front of the TV.
Posted on 10/29/15 at 1:10 pm to Geaux23
Not to mention the lawsuit and money she will get to collect from the police, school board and state.
But she did nothing wrong.
Teachers won't be able to do anything anymore.
But she did nothing wrong.
Teachers won't be able to do anything anymore.
Posted on 10/29/15 at 1:13 pm to nicholastiger
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But she did nothing wrong.
She did, but that's pretty normal behavior in some schools. Teachers are better equipped to deal with these kids than officers. Seems like a huge escalation, an unnecessary one.
Posted on 10/29/15 at 1:13 pm to RogerTheShrubber
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I would start cutting privileges right away.
she ignored the teacher, vp or principle, and the sro...I really don't think she gives a frick
Posted on 10/29/15 at 1:15 pm to The Mick
In back to back posts -
And then right afterward....
There are obviously major differences of opinion regarding how this incident was handled. The fact is that we have students that are uncontrollable and there needs to be clear and effective protocol that addresses the proper way to handle these situations. We need to directly involve the parent(s) or guardian(s) to help enforce corrective behavior or the child will face expulsion/transfer to a correction facility until their behavior improves. We can't have disruptive/unruly children that refuse to behave OR ill-prepared, police officers that abuse or misuse their power to diffuse situations like these. Frankly the officer and the student both need more education. They were both wrong. The child was wrong and needed more effective discipline, and the officer was wrong in not understanding how to properly diffuse this situation.
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He should have handled it completely different.
And then right afterward....
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The officer did absolutely nothing wrong.
There are obviously major differences of opinion regarding how this incident was handled. The fact is that we have students that are uncontrollable and there needs to be clear and effective protocol that addresses the proper way to handle these situations. We need to directly involve the parent(s) or guardian(s) to help enforce corrective behavior or the child will face expulsion/transfer to a correction facility until their behavior improves. We can't have disruptive/unruly children that refuse to behave OR ill-prepared, police officers that abuse or misuse their power to diffuse situations like these. Frankly the officer and the student both need more education. They were both wrong. The child was wrong and needed more effective discipline, and the officer was wrong in not understanding how to properly diffuse this situation.
Posted on 10/29/15 at 1:15 pm to Duckie
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I still have no idea how everyone else in the situation was so calm.
This is probably a common occurrence at that school. I spent a day at Istrouma High in Baton Rouge for a "job fair" around 1998, HO-LEE frick.
Posted on 10/29/15 at 1:17 pm to Topwater Trout
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she ignored the teacher, vp or principle, and the sro...I really don't think she gives a frick
Probably true. But it's also probably situational and short lived.
Posted on 10/29/15 at 1:18 pm to AwesomeSauce
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Posted on 10/29/15 at 1:18 pm to Geaux23
once again, the officer lacked situational awareness
this should be something that is required for police officers, but apparently a larger percentage lack with how they handle certain situations
this should be something that is required for police officers, but apparently a larger percentage lack with how they handle certain situations
Posted on 10/29/15 at 1:21 pm to SUB
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I agree. Firing the cop wasn't a bad decision, but I still feel bad for him. He may have just intended to pick up the desk with the girl in it and move her outside at first, but she hit him and he lost his cool. I'm sure there were other less violent (not that it was very violent) to handle the situation. He made a bad choice that left his boss with no other choice but to fire him.
He was in a no win situation.
He was brought in to remove the girl form the room as she had been deemed too unruly to continue on for the day by the teacher and admin. He comes in and asks her a number of times to leave without compliance. He then commands with the same results. What is he supposed to do now? Would you be doing your job, the reason you were hired, by just throwing your hands up, saying "Well, ya got me there!" And walking away? Should you just continue issuing commands/requests with no intention to enforce them?
He then uses physical control techniques and she becomes combative. At that point all bets are off and she gets tossed.
He was fired as damage control. Simple as that. Need to appease the #blm terrorists.
Posted on 10/29/15 at 1:23 pm to jbgleason
quote:Police officers aren't in schools for no reason, nor did it start out that way. Their presence is a response to the environment, not the cause of it. Some would have you believe otherwise because they always want to blame their problems on others.
This wasn't a Law Enforcement problem. This was a school discipline problem. The Police Officer never should have been involved. What did they think was going to happen when he was called in to do something?
quote:So she could ignore the teacher again, thereby "learning" that all you have to do is ignore authority and you can do whatever you want? Brilliant.
Frankly, the guy should have walked in and told her to get up and leave. When she refused, he should have said "oh well" and turned it back over to the teacher.
No, she deserved to be dragged out of there. The cop went way overboard, though.
Posted on 10/29/15 at 1:27 pm to lsupride87
Yeah you keep thinking that
Posted on 10/29/15 at 1:29 pm to Salmon
I am just amazed how many people find that this girl deserved to get suplexed in a desk for not getting up. Shid they didn't even man handle Dylan Roof and he shot bunch of innocent people. Some people act as if a child is not entitle to a having a "bad" day, but in typical OT fashion they will not let an opportunity pass of calling a black person a dindu, bitch, thug, animal, welfare queen, and etc etc. She was an orphan who was going through a rough patch and the "adults" overreacted over a cell phone. Its not like she was fighting or acting like the class clown. But by all means continue to talk shite and praise a shitty ex pig who has an history of using excessive force. Never once has it been report this child has had issues behaving, but one day makes her a thug.
Posted on 10/29/15 at 1:29 pm to arcalades
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You must be clueless.
Not clueless at all. Not delusional either. We as a society are letting this shite, this disrespect for authority, get way way way out of hand. That little bitch deserved every bit of what she got. I truly feel for that cop and his family and I hope they can find peace before they lose everything over some trashy kid.
Posted on 10/29/15 at 1:31 pm to LSU_Saints_Hornets
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I am just amazed how many people find that this girl deserved to get suplexed in a desk for not getting up.
I'll bet you a dollar if he had shot her dead for that "punch" she throws, there would be some on here defending the officer. The fact is this message board is populated by racist morons who don't see the disconnect between their love of guns (and the ability to form a militia) and BLIND support of an ever-encroaching police state.
This post was edited on 10/29/15 at 1:32 pm
Posted on 10/29/15 at 1:32 pm to tylercsbn9
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Need to appease the #blm terrorists.
Bingo.
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