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re: Beer industry consolidation (InBev plans takeover of SAB)

Posted on 9/16/15 at 10:12 am to
Posted by Kingpenm3
Xanadu
Member since Aug 2011
9920 posts
Posted on 9/16/15 at 10:12 am to
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This is not a good thing for consumers.


Never. I can't stand the mergers that are allowed in this country and around the world. Just look at all of the oil companies. Almost every market is controlled now by just a few. Just ridiculous. Oligarchies everywhere.

Posted by NYNolaguy1
Member since May 2011
21764 posts
Posted on 9/16/15 at 10:14 am to
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If only someone could mass produce craft beer to keep it under $3 a bottle.


I was just in New Orleans this past weekend and picked up an Abita 12 Party Pack for $15...

Granted you'll never see Dogfish that low, but it's not impossible.
Posted by LSURoss
Dragon Believer
Member since Dec 2007
16767 posts
Posted on 9/16/15 at 10:15 am to
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will mean lower production costs.


Maybe so, but the consumer will never see that. Distributors and Retailers will absorb the profits.
Posted by upgrayedd
Lifting at Tobin's house
Member since Mar 2013
138920 posts
Posted on 9/16/15 at 10:15 am to
quote:

having one giant monopoly controlling everything, from legislation to the distributors, the isn't a good thing.


The way we, as Americans, still support and encourage that archaic distribution system is reprehensible.
Posted by RedRifle
Austin/NO
Member since Dec 2013
8334 posts
Posted on 9/16/15 at 10:16 am to
Well, let's be honest. We don't have true capitalism. What we have is cronyism. In theory the merger is great for consumers etc, except that we have politicians that will influence outcomes. Remove the politicians and everyone will win. I bet a couple of Senators from Colorado are going to come out against this merger. Pure politics.
Posted by RedRifle
Austin/NO
Member since Dec 2013
8334 posts
Posted on 9/16/15 at 10:18 am to
And in turn those profits will be spent in the local economy. And so "consumers" will win. When someone makes more money they typically spend it.
Posted by Dire Wolf
bawcomville
Member since Sep 2008
40342 posts
Posted on 9/16/15 at 10:22 am to
I am no big city lawyer, what kind of anti-trust battle are they going to have with this merger?

they would be about 90% of market share.

quote:

Maybe so, but the consumer will never see that. Distributors and Retailers will absorb the profits.



you certainly know better than I, but wouldn't there biggest advantage be to sell significantly cheaper than craft

This post was edited on 9/16/15 at 10:27 am
Posted by Pax Regis
Alabama
Member since Sep 2007
15277 posts
Posted on 9/16/15 at 10:22 am to
There is no way the U.S. justice dept clears the merger of Budweiser and Miller. This is some antitrust bullshite of the highest order.
Posted by southernelite
Houston, TX
Member since Sep 2009
53563 posts
Posted on 9/16/15 at 10:23 am to
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Sure it is- as more and more people see mass produced crap beer, it will just accelerate the trend of the exploding craft brewery scene.

Mass produced beer has been slowly losing market share for some time. I think this merger is a product of that trend.




Posted by CtotheVrzrbck
WeWaCo
Member since Dec 2007
37538 posts
Posted on 9/16/15 at 10:23 am to
Microbrews and local outfits taking over providing a superior product. Let the big boys circle the drain with their bland marketing and shite products.
Posted by ragincajun03
Member since Nov 2007
29214 posts
Posted on 9/16/15 at 10:30 am to
quote:

I was just in New Orleans this past weekend and picked up an Abita 12 Party Pack for $15...

Granted you'll never see Dogfish that low, but it's not impossible.


Not as low as Abita, but DFH 60 Minute IPA sells around $10 for a 6 pack, so definitely under the poster's $3 per bottle figure.
Posted by waiting4saturday
Covington, LA
Member since Sep 2005
11089 posts
Posted on 9/16/15 at 10:33 am to
Even more of a reason to drink local.
Posted by Dire Wolf
bawcomville
Member since Sep 2008
40342 posts
Posted on 9/16/15 at 10:35 am to
quote:

If only someone could mass produce craft beer to keep it under $3 a bottle.


I'd say most craft breweries regular line up is under that sans praire or millker.

most six packs are in the 8.99-11.99 range. Its the DIPAs or big stouts that get you
Posted by missloutiger
Baton Rouge
Member since Feb 2008
1133 posts
Posted on 9/16/15 at 10:44 am to
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This post was edited on 9/16/15 at 10:45 am
Posted by LSUballs
RayVegas LA
Member since Feb 2008
40383 posts
Posted on 9/16/15 at 10:48 am to
Holy shite, I'm not banned anymore. YeeHaw
Posted by Hawkeye95
Member since Dec 2013
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Posted on 9/16/15 at 10:50 am to
Posted by NYNolaguy1
Member since May 2011
21764 posts
Posted on 9/16/15 at 10:53 am to
Just so you know- in 2013 craft breweries held 7% market share. That number jumped to 11 in 2014. I don't think the solution to this problem is consolidation for big beer.

From IBT

quote:

 
The Brewers Association announced that craft brewers are doing better than ever –- reaching 11 percent of market share for volume of beer sold in America in 2014. That’s the first time that small- and medium-size breweries have broken into double digits in a market long dominated by a few large breweries.

Craft brewers have broken into the big leagues of brewing -- breaching 11 percent of beer produced in the U.S. by volume in 2014, marking the first time that small and medium-sized breweries have topped double-digit production levels in a market long dominated by a handful of large brewers. Craft beer's share last year was up sharply from 2013's 7.8 percent.


Posted by BRIllini07
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2015
3206 posts
Posted on 9/16/15 at 10:55 am to
So, do you think we'll see the Bud Light/Miller Lite crossover Super Bowl commercials in time for this winter?
Posted by NIH
Member since Aug 2008
122855 posts
Posted on 9/16/15 at 10:58 am to
Good to see REAL MAN beer under one giant roof. South Louisiana rejoices.
Posted by LoveThatMoney
Who knows where?
Member since Jan 2008
12644 posts
Posted on 9/16/15 at 11:17 am to
quote:

This is not a good thing for consumers.


Disagree insofar as it will open more taps to beers like Stella and Hoegaarden and whatever the hell SABMiller owns, which will broaden people's horizons. The only problem is that it could have a real impact on distribution since instead of SABMiller and InBev competing for lower prices in that arena and making deals with smaller breweries to use their distribution channels, they will be of one mind and basically make it harder for the distribution of craft beer.

Otherwise, it should not be a problem for anyone other than Milwaukee employees of Miller.
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