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Posted on 9/7/22 at 9:27 am to member12
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Why can’t the Saints have anything this cool?
Who wants to go to a Saints game in a fake landscape in a suburb?
Posted on 9/7/22 at 9:31 am to LSUFanHouston
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Who wants to go to a Saints game in a fake landscape in a suburb?
Going to an urban hellscape is better?
Posted on 9/7/22 at 9:32 am to SportsGuyNOLA
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We already do
Exactly. We don't need to build a touristy fake place around the stadium, because we already have tourism around the Dome.
And if you want a sterile place to pre-game... we have Champions Square.
Posted on 9/7/22 at 9:34 am to member12
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Saints would do well in Covington.
Covington is full. Take your nonsense elsewhere
Posted on 9/7/22 at 9:36 am to member12
I hate this idea. Soldier Field is in almost as good a location for its city as is the Super Dome.
Posted on 9/7/22 at 9:37 am to member12
The advantage the Saint have is people can stay in a hotel in walking distance to hotels, quarter and restaurants. The Suburbs won’t give you that.
Posted on 9/7/22 at 9:37 am to Indefatigable
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The teams that successfully moved outside of their named city did so because they have large suburban fanbases large enough to support the team locally.
Location of fan base matters a little bit for baseball since there are so many games, but its largely irrelevant for NBA/NHL, and has no impact at all for NFL stadiums. In fact SF and NE suburban stadiums are significantly further from their fan bases than a downtown location. Its not even about fan access, its about money and development deals.
Posted on 9/7/22 at 9:37 am to member12
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They are subsidized.
Every professional sports franchise is subsidized
Posted on 9/7/22 at 9:37 am to member12
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Why can’t the Saints have anything this cool?
Where tf would you put it? Lacombe?
Posted on 9/7/22 at 9:38 am to Cajunhawk81
Looks like a recreation of the white city from world's fair around tien of the century
Posted on 9/7/22 at 9:42 am to kingbob
Yeah it makes sense for some places, but it's a net negative for the Saints
For modern cities you really have two options
1 - Move to the suburbs and build around it, like Dallas. AT&T was on an island forever and only in the last few years has that improved because Arlington has always sucked. But for cities like Dallas or Phoenix, it's fine. The stadium was never a part of the fabric of the city, they're behemoths.
2 - Build in some in-town wasteland and pump billions into the surrounding area. See Atlanta. And that's not done, probably not going to be done for another 15-20 years. You're essentially building a new section of inner city to accompany the stadium. And it's hard with 2b stadiums that have a massive footprint and generally have no street presence. They don't exactly mesh well into the existing landscape.
Now baseball stadiums should be buried into the heart of cities. But the cities have to be cooperative and often they're not.
For modern cities you really have two options
1 - Move to the suburbs and build around it, like Dallas. AT&T was on an island forever and only in the last few years has that improved because Arlington has always sucked. But for cities like Dallas or Phoenix, it's fine. The stadium was never a part of the fabric of the city, they're behemoths.
2 - Build in some in-town wasteland and pump billions into the surrounding area. See Atlanta. And that's not done, probably not going to be done for another 15-20 years. You're essentially building a new section of inner city to accompany the stadium. And it's hard with 2b stadiums that have a massive footprint and generally have no street presence. They don't exactly mesh well into the existing landscape.
Now baseball stadiums should be buried into the heart of cities. But the cities have to be cooperative and often they're not.
Posted on 9/7/22 at 9:43 am to 3nOut
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redskins
Their distributed tickets last year were only 78% of capacity. They can't even give away tickets to their games.
Terrible example.
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braves
Baseball is different... and timing a new stadium with a better team has helped. Let's see how they do when they are no longer dominant.
Posted on 9/7/22 at 9:44 am to Pettifogger
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Now baseball stadiums should be buried into the heart of cities. But the cities have to be cooperative and often they're not.
I'd agree with that. Their attendance per game is typically lower, so being convenient to the workplaces are probably helpful to them. If not there, then very convenient to the homes of a lot of fans.
Posted on 9/7/22 at 9:45 am to Pettifogger
Except soldier field is in the heart of Chicago’s touristy downtown. It’s right by the bean and the art museum. It’s walking distance to Navy pier and the miracle mile where there’s tons of hotels. It’s close to the El Train. If the only issue is size or they want a dome, they should tear down soldier field and rebuild on the same spot. If necessary, play a season at Northwestern’s stadium for a year.
Posted on 9/7/22 at 9:46 am to Cajunhawk81
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Going to an urban hellscape is better?
I take my kids to Saints games all the time. Park off site. Walk to the dome.
Have NEVER had a problem.
Take that back. One time we did a drunk douchey white guy peeing in a garage stairwell.
Posted on 9/7/22 at 9:47 am to BuddyRoeaux
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Cause no one wants to build shite in the East. You can buy land for penny’s on the dollar out there but you can’t change the East from being Fallujah.
Fallujah is offended by the comparison.
Posted on 9/7/22 at 9:47 am to Cajunhawk81
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Going to an urban hellscape is better?
in this case, yes.
The Superdomes attraction is that it is walkable from the quarter and peoples hotels. Albeit increasingly sketchy in parts, especially canal.
Move the dome to Jefferson parish and the Super bowls/CFB Playoffs/march madness would stop coming around.
the traffic would be a nightmare.
Posted on 9/7/22 at 9:49 am to kingbob
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Except soldier field is in the heart of Chicago’s touristy downtown. It’s right by the bean and the art museum. It’s walking distance to Navy pier and the miracle mile where there’s tons of hotels. It’s close to the El Train. If the only issue is size or they want a dome, they should tear down soldier field and rebuild on the same spot. If necessary, play a season at Northwestern’s stadium for a year.
All of these things are true. The issue is that that city owns Soldier Field, and the team wants to own the stadium.
Posted on 9/7/22 at 9:49 am to NOLALGD
I meant successful insofar as fan attendance and engagement. I don't care how much ownership makes off a connected mixed use development
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